Posted on 11/20/2011 5:11:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Where did “piss poor” come from ?
We older people need to learn something new every day...
Just to keep the grey matter tuned up.
Where did "Piss Poor" come from? Interesting History.
They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot.
And then once it was full it was taken and sold to the tannery...
if you had to do this to survive you were "Piss Poor". But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot...
They "didn't have a pot to piss in" and were the lowest of the low.
The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature Isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be.
Here are some facts about the 1500's
Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May,
And they still smelled pretty good by June. However, since they were starting to smell, Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.
Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.
Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water.
The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water,
Then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children.
Last of all the babies.
By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.
Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water!"
Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath.
It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof.
When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs." There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house.
This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings
Could mess up your nice clean bed.
Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection.
That's how canopy beds came into existence.
The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt.
Hence the saying, "Dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery In the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing.
As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, It would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way. Hence: a thresh hold.
(Getting quite an education, aren't you?)
In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire.
Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables And did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers In the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day.
Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while.
Hence the rhyme:
“Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old”. Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special.
When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off.
It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon."
They would cut off a little to share with guests
And would all sit around and chew the fat.
Those with money had plates made of pewter.
Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death.
This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.
Bread was divided according to status.
Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle,
and guests got the top, or the upper crust.
Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up.
Hence the custom; “of holding a wake”.
England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people.
So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave..
When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive.
So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.
Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, “saved by the bell” or was "considered a dead ringer”.
And that's the truth.
Now, whoever said History was boring!!! So get out there and educate someone! ~~~
Share these facts with a friend. Inside every older person is a younger person wondering,
'What the heck happened?'
We'll be friends until we are old and senile.
Then we'll be new friends.
Smile, it gives your face something to do!
Soon we'll all be Piss Poor
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It has some grains of potential truth.
Some I have heard before, some passed as lore, but I haven’t seen or heard of any of these being debunked...
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Now I know where that saying, “I’m so poor that I don’t have a pot to p*ss in or a window to throw it out of”... comes from. Thanks!
Piss poor is from the chamber pot. If one did not own a chamber pot, one would have to get up and go outside to relieve oneself at night.
There’s an addendum: “or a window to throw it out of”.
In towns, chamber pots were typically emptied by simply throwing the contents out the window. The streets also served as sewers.
One who had no home at all was that poor, not a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of.
I’ve got one. Why are very light blond haired children called tow heads?
Anyone have an answer because I certainly don’t know.
Love the thread, Jim. Many interesting ‘factuals’.
Full read post. Thanks for the education.
I think that much of this makes sense.
“Saved by the bell” comes from boxing, but it could have had earlier roots, I guess.
And I don’t think that many peasants with thatched roofs had canopy beds. They were more upper class, from before the days of central heating. You could pull the side curtains closed and keep a bit warmer and more private.
Where did the phrase, ‘Taken with a grain of salt’ come from?
:-)
When you pulled the trigger on your flintlock rifle and only the powder in the pan went off without igniting the main charge, it was called “flash in the pan.”
If you sold your entire rifle, and not just the parts, you sold it “lock, stock and barrel.”
And of course “straight as a ram rod” came from the the loading rod used to stuff the powder charge down the barrel.
I think that tow head refers to flax or hemp, light colored fibers used to make rope.
That’s a very plausible explanation. Thanks!
Folk etymologies are fun!....and in the words of Cecil Adams, “some day one of these cute stories will actually turn out to be true!”
In Pliny it reads addito salis grano but the formula cum grano salis is better known.
“Don’t let the cat out of the bag.” is said to refer to the time of the tall ships, they kept the cat of nine tails in a bag and it was only taken out when someone on board was to be flogged.
With the most vulnerable getting the nastiest water of all, it’s no wonder so many babies died.
Great! Some stuff is just meant to be read, snopes is a bunch of libs anyhow!
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