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When did Herman Cain change? (Vanity)
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Posted on 11/04/2011 12:15:24 PM PDT by MiddleEarth

Ok, this has been bothering me. According to Wikipedia, Cain became CEO of the NRA in 1996 until 1999. This is a 3 year span out of all his 40 something years of being in the workforce. This is when all these supposed sexual harassments took place, right? So my question is--why would he suddenly become a pervert during these 3 years and no other time?


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To: Longbow1969

Actually I am disputing that.

How do you know there were two cases? Because Politico told you so?

Politico said today they have not been able to talk to the second source since the original phone call with her two weeks ago.


41 posted on 11/04/2011 1:07:27 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: MNJohnnie
Giving you the benefit of the doubt, I will guess you are just ignorant not slying trying to pimp the smear by whispering more allegations with no base in fact.

Good grief your posts are endlessly obnoxious and constantly full of venom.

It's like you think if you stick your head in the sand and don't discuss anything unpleasant, it will make news you don't like go away.

Quite your whining. I know your a Cain fanatic, but whining at other people isn't going to make Herman's problems go away. There were very definitely 2 harassment charges leveled against Cain that resulted in cash payouts. That means the original Politico story IS largely accurate as it did not get into any specific. It is good this story came out when it did, because there is no way it would have remained a secret through a general election campaign had Cain won the nomination.

I just gave Cain the benefit of the doubt and suggested that maybe he just has a flirtatious personality, and here you are crying again. Just grow up already. The issue is out there and you do your man Cain no good by bellyaching at anyone who offers opinions about what might have happened.

42 posted on 11/04/2011 1:11:08 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

“There were very definitely 2 harassment charges leveled against Cain that resulted in cash payouts.”

Source?


43 posted on 11/04/2011 1:17:57 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: Longbow1969

How about a female employee whose work was not meeting the standards. She knew she was going to be let go for incompetence so decided to go for broke - claim sexual harassment naming the CEO. She got an extra year’s salary from the “settlement” (minus whatever the lawyer took).


44 posted on 11/04/2011 1:25:15 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: justsaynomore
Source?

Are the 2 harassment claims even in question? I mean the fact that they occurred.

The AP has even gone so far as to detail how these two women are thriving professionally. I've seen no media outlet that even questions that part of the story.

Here is the AP/Post with particulars about the women:

2 women who settled harassment complaints against Herman Cain now thriving professionally

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ap-source-woman-who-complained-about-cain-sees-no-value-in-revisiting-harassment-complaint/2011/11/02/gIQAenZzfM_story.html

45 posted on 11/04/2011 1:25:24 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Not good enough. WaPo could have claimed 100 women settled cases based on their criteria.

Only one set of paperwork has appeared, today, from the NRA. If there is another woman wants to come forward with paperwork, great.

If not, then it is all hearsay.


46 posted on 11/04/2011 1:31:34 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: Longbow1969; justsaynomore

Have you ever seen so many high principled, high falutin’ source requests on FR, before? We conservatives are quickly learning to use those Alinsky diversion tactics, only it’s now against each other. LOL!

Eyewitness accounts of Wilson, Deakes, and others at cocktail hour with Herb must be mocked outright if allowed to be mentioned at all, and certainly can not be mentioned on FREE REPUBLIC without a poster with a differing opinion from the high handed, high headed having to “name your source”. Like we’re all a bunch of high minded journalists with staff! LOL! Our culture is cannibalized and we are now starting to be imploded right here.


47 posted on 11/04/2011 1:33:11 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: RitaOK

Just holding you to the high standards as you hold everyone else.


48 posted on 11/04/2011 1:37:12 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: Longbow1969

I happen to know Mr Cain...have for over 7 years now....

He is NOT a flirtatious guy....he is friendly and likable, but not flirty....

In fact, he has more integrity than any other man I have ever known....I don’t like the way Block tried to finger Perry— that honestly ticks me off....my head exploded when I heard about that....and ultimately Cain is responsible for what Block does or says on his behalf....

I don’t expect perfection— I think most of us don’t....but one thing for sure— we are SICK of the corruption...


49 posted on 11/04/2011 1:48:21 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: justsaynomore; Longbow1969

” Just holding you to the high standards as you hold everyone else. “ <<<<

Source the truth to that thar’ statement please. The part about where you refer to me personally; as in, “me” holding “everybody else” to some kind of standard. Get “me” 500 words on that term paper requirement, would you please, and with sources by gosh, that formed your opinion. We aren’t having any more opinion without sources goin’ around in these high falutin’ here parts. No opinion, ya’ hear? Not on Free Republic.

I am not FOR your candidate. I am FOR my own. Yours has stubbed his toe and is reaping some whirlwind. A couple of weeks aqo you couldn’t come up with squat against Rick Perry that you Cainbots didn’t drag in from Leftist sources. Enjoy your oxe getting gored this time. Not too dang much fun is it?


50 posted on 11/04/2011 1:49:09 PM PDT by RitaOK (TEXAS. It's EXHIBIT A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: Longbow1969

We don’t know if they were legit claims or not.

Do consider that the NRA is located in Washington DC, both of these women have gone on to a career in politics.

Is it really impossible to believe that these were extortion attempts?


51 posted on 11/04/2011 1:49:53 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Or it could be the whole things is a sleazy political trick with no base at all in fact.

That would be my inclination, but I guess we'll have to see how this plays out. IMO, he certainly could use a little advice on how to handle fake media storms.

52 posted on 11/04/2011 1:53:41 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: DallasDeb
I think that this period and the Deace comments (in Iowa) might all relate to Cain’s origination in the Deep South where men appreciate women and express totally innocent endearments which women in the North don’t appreciate. People in the North don’t like the folksy, friendly, and complimentary talk used by many in the South.

I made a similar comment on another Cain thread...you are exactly right. North and south; I've lived in both, and they are two separate and distinct cultures. Another item I have noted...northern people use the 'f' word in every day conversation; whereas I only heard the 'f' word ONCE in ten years down south, and that was from the lips of a Tennessee gal after LSU intercepted a Vols pass late in the game to seal the victory for the Tigers. I felt bad, so I didn't call her on it. :-)

53 posted on 11/04/2011 2:00:59 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Nonstatist

Make menopause?


54 posted on 11/04/2011 2:07:37 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: DallasDeb

The law only exists to make lawyers and judges rich. “Real” harassment can be prosecuted as “assault and battery”—they don’t need a whole new batch of laws for speech codes and government intrusion into business.

It is just all about power to control people. More laws eliminate virtue, never increase it, because there are always ways to get around the law and use it to get your enemies or make yourself rich.


55 posted on 11/04/2011 2:23:39 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Longbow1969
There is absolutely no evidence of Herman Cain having an official judgment of sexual harassment against him. You can claim and charge whatever you want, but if there is no conviction, the act DID NOT OCCUR. Accusations must be proven in a hearing, and the hearings in this case determined that sexual harassment DID NOT OCCUR.

What else does anyone need to know????

56 posted on 11/04/2011 2:24:02 PM PDT by Conservative_Rob
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To: Conservative_Rob; Longbow1969; RitaOK

The NRA just released their statement:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2802677/posts

The woman’s attorney released a statement:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2802657/posts


57 posted on 11/04/2011 2:31:08 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: MiddleEarth
So my question is--why would he suddenly become a pervert during these 3 years and no other time?

Great question. To quote Dr. Phil : If you want to predict future behavior, just look at past behavior.

So how does a leopard change it's spots?

58 posted on 11/04/2011 2:38:32 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (According to the MSM, I'm a fringe sitting, pajama wearing, Freeper)
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To: justsaynomore

I’ll board that train of thought !

I keep thinking of the Clarence Thomas smears - which nothing to do with his private behaviors - but everything to do with his staunch “constitutionalist/constructionist” opinion history !

D.C. is a cesspool, and its effluent spills over into the national political scene as a matter of course. Do we really, really want people thriving in that sort of environment determining our political future ? >PS


59 posted on 11/04/2011 3:13:17 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: eeevil conservative
you can’t sneeze in DC without your snot hitting an attorney willing to help you get a few bucks.....

And even if they won't help you, at least you got some snot on an attorney...

(apologies to that one attorney... somewhere... this doesn't apply to...)

60 posted on 11/04/2011 3:27:12 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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