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"standard tale of government intervention" at its best.
1 posted on 10/03/2011 6:30:28 AM PDT by huldah1776
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Bank of America’s debit card fee will be a bonanza for credit unions.


2 posted on 10/03/2011 6:38:51 AM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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Walmart attempted to become its own bank in order to alleviate fees to Citi, which does nothing to earn them.

Citi makes more on some products than Walmart does.

Citi did not want to lose its gravy train, so it demagogued Walmart's application and got it rejected.

So Walmart did an end-around.

I don't blame them.

3 posted on 10/03/2011 6:40:13 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them." --Ronald Reagan)
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Time to get out the old checkbook.


4 posted on 10/03/2011 6:42:12 AM PDT by woodenickel
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There’s some pretty muddled thinking going on in the authors head.


5 posted on 10/03/2011 6:50:43 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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I suppose the next shoe to drop is retailers will start to refuse credit cards and take only debit.


6 posted on 10/03/2011 6:51:07 AM PDT by The Free Engineer
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Total hogwash. It started and ended with the banks charging the stores. It’s the banks who want to fill their big pockets by charging both the stores and the card holders. High interest rates, fees, and extra charges every time you turn around and now they’re throwing in yet another charge. Here’s hoping BofA lose so many customers it puts them out of business.


9 posted on 10/03/2011 6:59:38 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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Cash, checks and credit cards don’t have a fee per transaction yet, do they?


11 posted on 10/03/2011 7:03:38 AM PDT by deport
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Who are they trying to kid? It’s the customer who pays the fee no matter what... whether it goes through the bank or retailer, it’s just a matter of who handles the money.


13 posted on 10/03/2011 7:08:07 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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"standard tale of government intervention" at its best.

Exactly. Why blame Walmart and lobbyists? They're doing what they are supposed to do: try to make money for their companies. Blame the politicians willing to be bought. I laugh when politicians blame lobbyists for troubles in politics. If politicians weren't bribable, unethical, lying scum, lobbyists would be powerless.

15 posted on 10/03/2011 7:13:51 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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Good post!


17 posted on 10/03/2011 7:20:26 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Before debit cards, most people probably paid cash for many routine transactions. Before debit cards were so common I’d typically withdraw $200 for walking around money, but that’s now more like $40 since I use a debit card routinely.

It’d be easy to return to carrying more cash to pay for routine transactions if debit fees seem out-of-line.


24 posted on 10/03/2011 7:44:49 AM PDT by Will88
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Banks are nickle and diming us to death
- Requiring minimimum balances (which they use for their purposes without our reinbursment) or we get a fee (again for them)

- Paying us essentially next to nothing interest rates on our savings (which they use to bolster their ‘investments’)

- More fees for non-bank ATMs

- And more fees on top of those.


27 posted on 10/03/2011 7:53:32 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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So Dick Durbin takes a bribe from WalMart to change legislation that costs BoA money, then BoA passes that loss on to the consumer.

And I'm supposed to blame WalMart?

No, I'll stick to blaming the government. WalMart is supposed to look out for WalMart. Dick Durbin is supposed to be our employee, working for us.

28 posted on 10/03/2011 8:01:20 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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I still blame Congress. They didn't have to cave in to Big Retail's demands.

Besides, Government raises fees on stuff all the time and that just falls on deaf ears.

30 posted on 10/03/2011 8:19:43 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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The fees charged by banks to retainers for processing debit card purchases were outrageously high, especially considering that it cost next to nothing to process such transactions compared to the customer writing a check. So, the government intervened, even though it was none of the government’s business.

The net result was that the government limited the amount of the transaction fee. So, the banks such as BAC decided to get their pound of flesh elsewhere by instituting a $5 a month charge against checking account customers who used their debit card for one or more purchases each month.

The banks were greedy to begin with, and now that they made a bunch of money off their original greed, they do not want to give up that money and hence, the new debit card fee. As for me, a pox on the major banks and a pox on the Federal government.

Folks need either to not use their debit cards for purchases or switch their checking accounts to regional banks or credit unions which do not charge such fees. That is my plan should Wells Fargo begin charging such fees in my So Cal area, and I have been a 33 year WF customer.


31 posted on 10/03/2011 8:35:21 AM PDT by CdMGuy
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I think a way around these boondoggles, that individual States can use to insulate themselves from irresponsible Washington and the volatile dollar, is to create a public-private partnership with a currency company to issue “debit scrip”.

If a State issues a currency, it must be back by gold and silver. But anyone can issue ‘scrip’, which is a non-legal tender alternative to currency. A State could heavily license, regulate, audit and insure a currency company to issue a heavily controlled currency with voluntary consumer and merchant buy-in.

Any citizen of that State could buy the equivalent of a renewable debit card with US dollars. And if there was massive inflation, it would be a great deal, as US dollars could inflate, but the scrip currency would not, because its prices are fixed and only change once a month.

Unlike a regular debit card, a scrip debit card would have both much better security and be easier to use, needing no special equipment, just a cell phone with a camera. This is because the front of the card has their picture, and the back of the card has an encrypted Data Matrix bar code, which is a public domain bar code that can be read by a cell phone camera.

So if either a merchant or a consumer had a cell phone, a sale could be made through the currency companies phone line and computers, transferring scrip currency from buyer to seller.

The big selling point of scrip is that it is a better deal for both consumer and especially local retailers than by dealing in dollars, much like using coupons. And yet it can be used side-by-side with dollars, whichever one offers the better deal being preferred.

When dollars become too scarce in deflation, as happened at the start of the Great Depression, scrip comes to the rescue, keeping both the market flowing and local government functioning. It was used hundreds of times, and is still used in some places in the US.

So what’s not to like? No matter how chaotic the federal government, how volatile the dollar, shortages and surpluses, scrip fits the bill, and debit scrip has a remarkably low overhead.


34 posted on 10/03/2011 8:47:17 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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I have a stupid question:

My Bank ATM card is also a debit card (I never debit) So, am I going to get whacked with a debit fee because I have the card and only use it as an ATM card?
(that’s to say if my bank jumps onto this bandwagon too)


37 posted on 10/03/2011 9:09:32 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Agenda21: Dept. of Life, Dept. of Liberty and the Dept. of Happiness)
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Well, my bank’s not going to do that. But personally I think you gotta be nuts to use a debit card anywhere than at an ATM anyway. Just use your bank’s card for ATM withdrawals and use a real card for everything else, and the fees go away.


39 posted on 10/03/2011 10:53:55 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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