Posted on 09/22/2011 8:12:40 PM PDT by dangus
Newt Gingrich won again. I'm actually starting to get excited for him. In fact, if Sarah Palin doesn't run, I'm going to have to consider him, in spite of his personal life. He came off as the smartest, most capable guy in the room, but also, again, the most feisty and courageous.
Michelle Bachmann continues to fade into the background, despite explaining her Gardasil comments. Much better than the last two debates.
Herman Cain gave a great performance, a huge improvement over a couple debates ago when he was a non-factor. I think his 9-9-9 is idiotic, since a sales tax is BOTH regressive and crushes spending, which might have been a plus in 2005, but is a killer to hopes of an economic recovery. But his *performance* was strong.
Rick Perry was absolutely terrible. He was so stiff, he looked as stiff as Charles Krauthammer and as propped up as Mike Dukakis, and so incapable of annunicating his attacks on Romney that they fell apart with a simple denial by Romney. His answers about illegal immigration were complete crap, forcing him to run away from Rick Santorum's painfully simple question.
Romney in contrast played a game of "I'll deny this, but I'll admit this," openly acknowledging that there's stuff in his past that people will have problems with, but denying each of Perry's specifics. To me, his admissions in general to unpopular stances, but denials of specific accusations by Perry actually made his specific denials credible, and Perry seem weak.
Santorum was excellent, second only to Gingrich in his sharpness and boldness. Too bad he's unelectable, but he actually started to seem vice presidential to me.
How can Ron Paul top siding with Ahmadinejab? How about making the US into the Soviet Union and the Mexican border with the Iron Curtain? Despicable. Loathesome. Insane.
Gary Johnson came off as the credible libertarian candidate. An awkward delivery style, but he avoided the bizarre statements and embarrassing positions of Ron Paul.
Jon Hunstman quit attacking Republicans and actually started to sound like one. Not a bad talker, but too much like Romney. Not at all because they're both Mormons.
The big winner: Newt Gingrich, with Mitt Romney, Herman Cain and Rick Santorum being strong. Johnson takes the libertarian title.
The big loser: Rick Perry actually manages to top Ron Paul in offending the most people, by calling opposing giving special $100,000 tuition breaks to illegal aliens, "heartless."
Still waiting for Sarah.
If my federal income tax drops to 9%, AND my capital gains tax drops to zero, AND my tax on dividends drops to zero according to Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 plan, my purchasing power just tripled based on discretionary money available to me.
So I would be thrilled to pay 9% sales tax in lieu of all those other taxes going away. If this becomes law, the economic boom would be astonishing.
Romney’s immigration position is FAR more conservative than Perry’s and that for me is a big issue.
Chief of staff... very interesting proposal for what to do with Newt.
the guy’s got great ideas and articulates them very well. I think he’d run a tight ship...learn from mistakes in the ‘90s.
Bad news... you’re missing a ‘9.’
Yes they did mention Bachmann. And the Paultards clogged the site, as usual.
I’m for Palin, but keeping an open mind on Perry if it comes to that.
I watched two minutes of the debate. Happened to catch Perry talking about Romney’s flip-flopping. Perry was not doing so well with it.
“So he was for gun control before...after...he was for..against it. And before Obamacare he, before he was for it, and then after he was against it, and ...” (Well - SOMETHING like that - it was all messed up.)
Too bad he couldn’t have caught himself and said something like “I’m sorry, but he flip-flops so much it is REALLY hard to keep straight”.
I don’t think so. Rip socialism out by the roots.
Remember why it went astray, though. Newt is an idea guy. He didn't have the focus or attention span to consolidate the Revolution of 1994. He got bored and lost interest in administering the Revolution -- and that's when he got into "trouble".
Newt's not a CEO. But he is somebody you want in the "kitchen cabinet".
I thought Fox did a terrific job. I liked the format, liked the debaters, really got a good idea of the folks out there. My first debate, tho I’ve been reading like crazy.
Cain won by far.
The point should be made that Obama used his race to win in 2008. He will use it again in 2012.
Herman Cain would literally neuter the liberals of their one and only BS racist fear card. This of course is secondary to his qualifications and character to be president. Herman clearly stands out as the best candidate.
The most stupid statement tonight came from Chris Wallace when he said; Perry was against “A Border Along The Fence.”
Perry’s debating skills are suspect, as are his mounting issue problems. Romneycare takes the most important issue off the table for Romney. Michelle Bachman is showing a viciousness in her half-truths opportunism, Newt Gringrich is brilliant but is a has been nobody is wanting, the others it doesn’t even matter what I think or anybody else for that matter cuz they aren’t even a blip on the radar screen. Crap. C’mon Sarah we need ya.
Rush Limbaugh Today: "My dogs have created more shovel ready jobs than Obama."
So, now I know who Gary Johnson's neighbor is. :)
Santorum came across to me as the one farthest from reality. If he thinks we can keep spending Billions every month in Iraq with borrowed money from China with interest to be paid for ever (since budget surpluses can not be seen even with the mightiest of telescopes) then Rick, please disappear back to PA. Protecting oil supplies to China from middle-east where they get majority of their oil by BORROWING money from them is as stupid as it gets. Until our economy is balanced and prospering again, stop the foolish intervention in middle-east wars. These are WARS to NO WHERE.
See the post on the main forum i just posted....!
Newt always sounds good until he jumps the shark. Too bad his record doesn’t match his rhetoric. When it counts, he fades.
Being able to talk conservative and being able to govern as President of the United States are, I believe, two different propositions.
If you thing the Christian Right is gonna swallow Gingrich, you've got another think coming... And no one wins without the Christian Right.
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