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Charles Lindbergh Won the Prize, but Did His Rival Get There First?
WSJ ^ | 06 Sept 2011 | SEBASTIAN MOFFETT

Posted on 09/06/2011 10:27:39 AM PDT by Palter

A Countryman Tries to Unravel the Unsolved Mystery of Charles Nungesser's Last Flight

PARIS—Right after his historic, 33-hour trans-Atlantic flight from New York to Paris in 1927, Charles Lindbergh asked whether there was news of French aviator Charles Nungesser.

Mr. Nungesser, an adventurer and World War I ace, was Mr. Lindbergh's great rival in the race to fly nonstop across the Atlantic in one direction or the other. He had set off with a navigator from Paris for New York just two weeks before Mr. Lindbergh's flight. But his biplane—called L'Oiseau Blanc, or White Bird—never arrived in New York, and for decades it was assumed that it had crashed in an Atlantic storm.

Eighty-four years later, Bernard Decré, a French aviation enthusiast, is on his own quest—to rewrite history. He has come to a different conclusion: The Oiseau Blanc probably flew over Newfoundland, before crash-landing off the coast of Canada.

Last year, Mr. Decré discovered a 1927 U.S. Coast Guard telegram that reported sighting parts of the plane three months after the flight.

"My heart started pounding," Mr. Decré, 71, remembers.

So Mr. Nungesser and navigator François Coli might have been the first men to fly nonstop to North America from Continental Europe. Messrs. Nungesser and Coli would then have held the world flight distance record, if only for 12 days and under tragic circumstances.

The race was triggered when New York hotelier Raymond Orteig in 1919 offered a $25,000 prize for the first nonstop trans-Atlantic flight between New York and Paris. In the ensuing years, a number of fliers made it across in other ways—via Ireland, or by refueling at sea—but the nonstop, continent-to-continent challenge was different. "There was an incredible competition to drive the birth of commercial aviation," says Eric Lindbergh, the aviator's grandson.

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TOPICS: History; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: aviation; charleslindbergh; france; germany; godsgravesglyphs; lindbergh
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1 posted on 09/06/2011 10:27:42 AM PDT by Palter
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To: Palter

Landing vs. “being on the ground” doesn’t enter into the terms of success?


2 posted on 09/06/2011 10:29:54 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Palter

I guess that would make Lindbergh the first to fly the Atlantic non-stop without dying.


3 posted on 09/06/2011 10:31:02 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

So if the Russians had sent a manned rocket to crash on the Moon........


4 posted on 09/06/2011 10:32:15 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

New York to Paris, not North America to Europe as that had already been done I believe by an Army team.


5 posted on 09/06/2011 10:33:56 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Stand up is hard if you're not funny.)
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To: Paladin2
Any landing you walk away from is a success......... Oh...er as you were
6 posted on 09/06/2011 10:34:15 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: Paladin2
Landing vs. “being on the ground” doesn’t enter into the terms of success?

It is my understanding that Landing is the hardest, and most important part of flying. It should have been a clue to the people who were asked to train the 9/11 pilots, when they gave no interest in learning how to land.


7 posted on 09/06/2011 10:35:45 AM PDT by tpmintx (The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: Palter
That does not count as a successful flight.
We could have had a man on the moon 6 years earlier if his survival was not an issue.
We have interstellar flight capability right now, if we don't care when or in what shape the passengers arrive.

8 posted on 09/06/2011 10:36:14 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Palter

Nungesser was a really fascinating individual. But he’s never going to get credit for beating Lindbergh. He failed the task.


9 posted on 09/06/2011 10:38:36 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: Palter

Sacre bleu!!!


10 posted on 09/06/2011 10:39:26 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Palter

It only counts if you land. And “landing” means you survive the flight.


11 posted on 09/06/2011 10:40:03 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

Of course he landed in a marsh, with all the other frogs.


12 posted on 09/06/2011 10:41:58 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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“So Mr. Nungesser and navigator François Coli...”

Francois Coli or also known as F. Coli. I wonder if he had a brother named E. Coli? LOL!


13 posted on 09/06/2011 10:45:15 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: tpmintx
A good landing is one you can walk away from.

A great landing is one in which you can use the airplane again!

14 posted on 09/06/2011 10:46:48 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Palter
So, according to this Frenchman, arriving alive was not part of the challenge? Nice.
15 posted on 09/06/2011 10:52:22 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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Yes, the prize was for New York to Paris or the reverse, thus demonstrating a potential for regular transatlantic flights. Even considering Lindbergh’s troublesome political alignment in the late 30’s his kind of rugged individualism is just what this country needs now.
16 posted on 09/06/2011 10:53:18 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: USNBandit

You got it!

This Frenchman would say the U.S. was the SECOND country to land men on the moon.


17 posted on 09/06/2011 10:53:38 AM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: tpmintx
It always makes me nervous when the stews now suggest that "we will be on the ground soon" rather than "We'll be landing soon" near the conclusion of a commercial flight.

The lawyers must be involved in massaging the implied promise over the years.

18 posted on 09/06/2011 10:57:29 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Palter

Didn’t make it to NYC? Fail.


19 posted on 09/06/2011 10:58:28 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Paladin2

I, for one, have never liked the “Terminating in (wherever)” announcement.


20 posted on 09/06/2011 11:00:13 AM PDT by tpmintx (The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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