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To: Swordmaker

Fascinating information. Thank you.
I will tell my children about this. They’re young enough, that the baking soda regimine might prevent dementia. But what about all us old parents who’ve used toothpaste all our lives? I’m thinking the baking soda certainly can’t hurt ...and, at least, we won’t be adding to the spirochetes already in our systems. Assuming many spirochetes are already in the bodies of 40 - 60 year old toothpaste users...do you believe that switiching to baking soda might lessen the effects of dementia OR eliminate it for them? Also, would you advise an elderly person, say over 75, who suffers from type 2 diabetes, heart disease and early signs of dementia to switch to baking soda? IOW, do you think it would make much of a difference once the alzheimers/dementia has started?

Also, how do we typically kill spirochetes in the body?

Once again, thanks. This is truly fascinating.


111 posted on 08/26/2011 9:22:35 PM PDT by 1 spark
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It's fascinating, but it isn't new, and it is not taken as seriously as Swordmaker is taking it among Alzheimer's researchers.

The author of this paper, Miklossy, has been beating this particular drum since 1993. Her results have not been replicated. There are at least two citations in the literature, and one peer letter that you can find very easily that repudiate the earlier work completely.

It's intriguing, but a lot more work needs to be done.

Here are two earlier abstracts that trashed her work after the 1993 paper. http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/182/3/1006.short and http://journals.lww.com/neuroreport/Abstract/1999/05140/Alzheimer_s_disease_may_not_be_a_spirochetosis.18.aspx

114 posted on 08/26/2011 9:54:52 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Not forbidden by the laws of Physics, so, it must be OK.)
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To: 1 spark
I will tell my children about this. They’re young enough, that the baking soda regimine might prevent dementia. But what about all us old parents who’ve used toothpaste all our lives? I’m thinking the baking soda certainly can’t hurt ...and, at least, we won’t be adding to the spirochetes already in our systems. Assuming many spirochetes are already in the bodies of 40 - 60 year old toothpaste users...do you believe that switiching to baking soda might lessen the effects of dementia OR eliminate it for them? Also, would you advise an elderly person, say over 75, who suffers from type 2 diabetes, heart disease and early signs of dementia to switch to baking soda? IOW, do you think it would make much of a difference once the alzheimers/dementia has started?

I think the "can't hurt" and "not adding more" spirochetes are what we old people have to hang our hopes on. One of the things we don't know for sure about spirochetes is their life cycle. We don't know where or how they reproduce. There is a "spore" form in which the spirochete balls up for protection when environmental conditions are not conducive for it, but then unballs or comes out of the protective form, when things are more to its liking. How can we kill it when changing its environment causes it to go dormant in its "spore" form only to reappear later when we've stopped trying to kill it? Good thing the five second kill time of the sodium bicarbonate does not give it time to "spore up!"

I think that existing plaques in the brain, heart, arteries, veins, and Islets of Langerhans are HARD to remove, but perhaps the body will take care of them if you stop adding to them. The main article says that Alzheimer patients DO initially respond to large doses of antibiotics but then the progression of the disease continues. I think it may be that by the time one sees obvious symptoms of dementia, and give dosages of antibiotics, the damage the plaques have done and the physiological damage is irreversible. The time for antibiotics to kill the existing spirochetes in the blood and cells is long past time it may have done some good. . . It should have been given when the victim was first infected back when the victim was still asymptomatic.

I think it might be a good idea for EVERY dentist who sees a case of bleeding gingiva to order a round of routine antibiotics until the gingiva are healed... and to take a sample assay of the fauna of the mouth to see what nasties are living there. And for every MD to either refer patients they see to a dentist for gingival treatment when THEY see such problems, or order a round of routine antibiotics targeted toward oral spirochetes.

The key is to prevent the invasion in the first place. Keep your mouth clear of bacteria as best you can, with a good antibacterial protocol, and keep the seals of your teeth, your gums, healthy so they can keep the bugs OUT!

MDs and dentists need to start working in concert! This wall between the two disciplines needs to be torn down!

116 posted on 08/27/2011 12:50:45 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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