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Tea Party for FAIR Trade, no more Free Trade
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Posted on 08/08/2011 7:37:26 PM PDT by indianyogi

Is this something Tea Party should take as a cause?

Usually Republican party is for Free Trade, but its time we keep our jobs right here in this great country of ours. Can Tea Party change the conversation on trade issues?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: clintonsminions; clintonwouldbeproud; corporateterrorism; freetrade; freetraders; freetraitors; liberalnonsense; nafta; votenader2012
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To: indianyogi

BUY AMERICAN

I'm in!

USA! USA! USA!

21 posted on 08/08/2011 8:04:49 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (We are not tea partiers ... we are good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
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To: JDW11235

Ok, my bad . . . all this talk about tariffs was much about nothing. I didn’t realize that you wanted to lower them. /s


22 posted on 08/08/2011 8:05:33 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: JDW11235
Once upon a time corporations were able to come together for a specific time period, for a specific reason that put the best interests of a society ahead...

You mean like the Big 3 automakers? They came together and all agreed over and over again to deals with the UAW that provided absurd salary and benefit packages for unionized workers, because for years there was no competition and the consumer was stuck with Big 3 junk. If it were not for free trade we'd still be stuck with crappy American vehicles because they'd have never had an incentive to improve the quality of their product. Along came competition giving the consumer options and it became quickly apparent the Big 3 should have never, ever been so cozy with the unions and agreed to such rich contracts.

23 posted on 08/08/2011 8:06:23 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Cicero
If you set tarriffs too high, then you elminate competition and prices will rise. If you set them too low, then other countries move in and all our factories close down.

Spectacular in simplicity.

Cicero for president! :)

24 posted on 08/08/2011 8:07:41 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (We are not tea partiers ... we are good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
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To: Longbow1969

“You mean like the Big 3 automakers?”

Nope, you have to go further back than the last 100 years of corruption.


25 posted on 08/08/2011 8:12:35 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: 1rudeboy

“I didn’t realize that you wanted to lower them.”

No problem, someone has to be the intelligent one.


26 posted on 08/08/2011 8:13:38 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: indianyogi

The Taxed Enough Already Party is about TAXES. Stay on track.

Sales Tax
School Tax
Liquor Tax
Luxury Tax
Excise Taxes
Property Tax
Cigarette Tax
Medicare Tax
Inventory Tax
Real Estate Tax
Well Permit Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Inheritance Tax
Road Usage Tax
CDL license Tax
Dog License Tax
State Income Tax
Food License Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Gross Receipts Tax
Social Security Tax
Service Charge Tax
Fishing License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Building Permit Tax
IRS Interest Charges
Hunting License Tax
Marriage License Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Personal Property Tax
Accounts Receivable Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Gasoline Tax (currently 44.75 cents per gallon)
Utility Taxes Vehicle License Registration Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Recurring and Nonrecurring Charges Tax

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, & our nation was the most prosperous in the world.
We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.


27 posted on 08/08/2011 8:15:07 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: JDW11235

Just keep backpedaling. As fast as you can.


28 posted on 08/08/2011 8:17:02 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: B4Ranch

Eliminate every tax in America.

Replace them all - with one single 100% import tariff.

Do the math. It’s a wash.


29 posted on 08/08/2011 8:19:23 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (We are not tea partiers ... we are good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
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To: indianyogi

Don’t know - a lot of Tea Party folks seem to show up in foreign cars.


30 posted on 08/08/2011 8:19:53 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
BUY AMERICAN

Sure if the product is of good quality and priced competitively, then absolutely. But under no circumstances am I going to buy an inferior product, often for more money, to help preserve bloated, unionized positions in the name of patriotism.

With competition, our manufacturers are forced to build a better product which is good for the consumer. People are just going to have to accept that many, perhaps most, manufacturing jobs are low skill (High School degree only) positions that simply do not warrant high salaries and Cadillac benefit plans.

We are a knowledge economy now. Folks are just going to have to get an education, retraining, a marketable skill and let go the dreams of yesteryear where the blue collar assembly line worker could raise a family on only his income. Those days are gone and they are never coming back.

31 posted on 08/08/2011 8:20:32 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

Sure a “knowledge economy”.

Because we’re inherently smarter than everyone else in the world?

We’re going to lose that “knowledge economy” just like we lost our manufacturing economy.


32 posted on 08/08/2011 8:22:25 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (We are not tea partiers ... we are good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
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To: indianyogi

Once we feel we have to have a government that controls our work, products, people, quantity, and quality, we’ve lost our freedom; we’ve lost the free market and the freeDOM makes us great, and we’ve lost our belief that we CAN compete, and WIN, against other countries.


33 posted on 08/08/2011 8:27:16 PM PDT by casinva (It was Obama who set the August 2 date to begin with. Since when did we start believing him?)
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To: casinva

Oh fine.

Let’s just roll over and QUIT then.


34 posted on 08/08/2011 8:28:17 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (We are not tea partiers ... we are good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
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To: JDW11235
Nope, you have to go further back than the last 100 years of corruption.

Okay, please give me some examples of this magical time where corporations came together for specific reasons and put the best interests of society above the profits their companies were expected to generate. Heck if companies get together like that, I'd mostly be afraid they were colluding to fix prices. Corporations very reason for existing is to make money, not tackle social ills. They are not jobs programs, they are created to make money.

35 posted on 08/08/2011 8:28:52 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
Can the folks compete?

Are we on a permanent decline?

36 posted on 08/08/2011 8:30:21 PM PDT by endthematrix (The Name of the Game is BAILOUT.)
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To: endthematrix
Are we playing by rules we have imposed upon ourselves, while our adversaries take advantage of our stup... mindless parroting of dangerous and counterproductive codes of "free market" and fair play?

Hint: Yes we are.
37 posted on 08/08/2011 8:33:36 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (We are not tea partiers ... we are good tea partiers. Life-long tea partiers)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Some people will never get it. The only possible way to be prosperous is through industry. You are either industrious yourself, or you pillage the industry of others. If you do that, inevitably those pillaged will always become strong and more industrious while you become lethargic and weak.

Hence, the Chinese (et. al), being industrious have benefited from all the money the U.S. was willing to throw their way in order to not be industrious themselves. This was made possible by the elitists who actually write the laws or lobby those in Washington to gain their own interest. In the meantime, the Chinese have utilized the wealth sapped from the U.S. and the rest of the world to begin building their military powers and begin to become very gutsy towards the U.S.

Meanwhile, the U.S. as a country, does nothing and stagnates beyond repair. Hence, by enabling the international corporatists who want to be “World Citizens,” the nations of the world are falling into the trap of time immemorial, to be puppeted by the financiers of the world. A strong sovereign industry, and a true Republic (NOT DEMOCRACY) are the only ways to combat the same evil (Oligarchal Power) that was ruined societies for thousands of years.


38 posted on 08/08/2011 8:34:24 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
It disingenuous for a person to tell America that our country can compete, failing to fill in the blanks of how and why. Our Republic (by design) is not to be numero uno.
39 posted on 08/08/2011 8:40:40 PM PDT by endthematrix (The Name of the Game is BAILOUT.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No one should quit! Maybe you have lost all confidence in the free market and America’s ability to be the best nation on this earth, but I STILL BELIEVE IN US!

We have a nation of people who can be the absolute best in the world if you let them be, and if you think keeping them handcuffed by federal government oversight and union growth is the way to grow our nations’ businesses and show our best, then take a look at Obama’s economy now!

Keep the federal government regulations and handcuffs that limit our people, our states, our businesses and our growth out of the way of the American people, and you’ll see a country that is better than any other!

So, as to the question of this thread, I can’t see how the TEA Party would want to add federal regulations that limit our country’s businesses and market. That seems to be against every conservative principle there is.


40 posted on 08/08/2011 8:43:48 PM PDT by casinva (It was Obama who set the August 2 date to begin with. Since when did we start believing him?)
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