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How do you know they had not already planned to stop the showings there?

Why are you trumpeting this? Why are you so eager to share this with Evening Star (bless his heart)?

Again you are relying on Reuters/yahoo whatever.

Sounds to me like you are unintentionally helping the anti Palins here.

Why would you want to spread a story like this, someone that was thinking of going may say...what`s the point, and it seems to me you have nothing to base your claim...

you say it now APPEARS they have pulled the plug, maybe it was only going to be an initial showing, like they did in other locations IOWA comes to mind

Your reference to Reuters/Yahoo is a decent one. If there weren't figures to back up some of what their story said, I could agree with you.

In this instance, I don't believe the figures lie. Here they are. LINK Check out the information for the movie ranking 55th in box office draw for it's second weekend out.

Since the data at that link is going to die after this upcoming weekend, I'll provide the figures here, as they showed up on the site.

July 22-24, 2011 / Weekend

TW LW Title (click to view) Studio Weekend Gross % Change Theater Count / Change Average Total Gross Budget* Week #

55 40 The Undefeated (2011) ArcEnt $24,664 -62.1% 14 / +4 $1,762 $101,382 - 2

What the linked info reveals, is that the attendence at "the Undefeated" fell by 62,1%* week 1 to week 2, this last weekend. Big fall-offs are to be expected at most movies, so this isn't unexpected or out of the ordinary for "the Undefeated". Only the most popular movies continue to hold strong numbers after the first week.

Undefeated fell from 40th to 55th in box office revenues. The 2nd weekend gross was $24,664 at 14 theaters. Broken down, that's $1,762 dollars per screen. If ticket prices were pegged at $10 each, this would mean that on average 176 people saw the movie per screen over the weekend. If the movie was aired only five times from Friday through Sunday, that would mean the per screening count would be something like 35 people on average. If there were ten screenings, the screening average would be about 18 people per screening.

If you take the weekend gross from the total gross, you come up with reduction in box office from roughly $76,718 to about $24,664 week one to week two, with four additional screens. (can't explain why this isn't represented for being a nearly 68% decline in box office week 1 to week 2, as the numbers seem to indicate*) Perhaps they were only addressing the box office at the original ten screens. It would seem reasonable to address the full box office at all screens. The full box office is what is being addressed by those figures $24,664 vs $101,382.

Were Reuter's/Yahoo being unfair in their reporting? Perhaps you saw evidence of it. If so please explain why you see it that way.

Take care.

Why are you so eager to share this with Evening Star (bless his heart)?
In spite of his concerns about Governor Palin, EveningStar:

- joined us at the premiere of "The Undefeated" in Orange, CA two weeks ago,
- attended our "after party" -- and
- posted a (relativley) positive review of the movie here.

Please remind me: precisely what have YOU done to support this amazing movie?

RonDog did his best to get a group together to go see the screening of “The Undefeated”. He contacted me with that effort. I don’t see that as the actions of a person not being supportive of Palin.

Your comments seem to be evidence of a Palin supporter turning on someone in their own camp.

I’ve known RonDog for years, and I have known him and continue to know him to be a good person who has spent a considerable amount of his time doing a number of productive things with FReepers in the greater Los Angeles region, to the benefit of Conservatism.

I have valued his efforts, and continue to commend him for them.

It is unfortunate to see someone who doesn’t know RonDog, attempt to question his motives here.

You owe him an apology.