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Social Security needs proof man born in 1871 is dead. (Genealogy vanity!)
me | 6-22-2011 | stylecouncilor

Posted on 06/22/2011 4:03:22 PM PDT by stylecouncilor

Months ago I filed and paid $27 for a copy of my great-great grandfathers social security application as part of my genealogy research.

He was born in PA in 1871 and died in NY in 1940.

Today I received a letter from the SSA stating that they cannot send me a copy because they have no information that he is deceased! It goes on to thank me for my payment to cover the cost of searching the records and if I can send proof he is dead (lol) they can provide the record at no additional cost. I have 30 days to appeal.

Luckily, I grew impatient waiting for the SSA to send me the document, so I obtained a copy of his death certificate from the NY Municipal Archives.


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Math is hard.
1 posted on 06/22/2011 4:03:25 PM PDT by stylecouncilor
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To: stylecouncilor

Makes me think of the scene in our high school production of “You Can’t Take it With You” where Grandpa Vanderhoff convinces the IRS that he’s dead.


2 posted on 06/22/2011 4:05:19 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: stylecouncilor

Ask them if they’re still sending him checks, and if they aren’t, why not.


3 posted on 06/22/2011 4:05:19 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: stylecouncilor

My question would be, where have they been sending his Social Security checks all this time?


4 posted on 06/22/2011 4:06:09 PM PDT by Argus
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To: stylecouncilor
The longest unambiguously documented human lifespan
is that of Jeanne Calment of France (1875-1997),
who died at age 122 years, 164 days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_people

Hmmm...
Sounds like Guinness Book of World Records is calling

5 posted on 06/22/2011 4:06:49 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: tacticalogic

Great minds...


6 posted on 06/22/2011 4:06:52 PM PDT by Argus
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To: stylecouncilor

Does he come up in the social security death index? If so, how is it they have not confirmation of death?


7 posted on 06/22/2011 4:07:19 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: stylecouncilor

Is it possible that your ancestor was never in the system to begin with? I kinda doubt all the people who were senior citizens in the thirties jumped to get into SS. In fact, there were probably more than a few who considered it an affront.


8 posted on 06/22/2011 4:07:38 PM PDT by sinanju
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Is it possible that your ancestor was never in the system to begin with?

I have his social security number. Which is probably currently being used by someone somewhere.
9 posted on 06/22/2011 4:09:45 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: stylecouncilor

Turn the tables on them. Say that because you are unable to proof that he died, they owe his family 75 years of back Social Security payments plus interest.

I’m sure they’ll provide you proof he is dead rather quickly. That, or some dumb bureaucrat will send you a check.


10 posted on 06/22/2011 4:09:45 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: stylecouncilor

AH, some government workers do have a problem with numbers. My husband used to have to call one of them frequently and she was always out, at lunch, at a meeting, or on leave. Her secretary was such a dim bulb that when he gave his phone number he said he was afraid she’d ask him how to make an 8.


11 posted on 06/22/2011 4:11:36 PM PDT by kitkat ( I sure HOPE that it's time for a CHANGE from Obama.)
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To: mnehring

LOL!


12 posted on 06/22/2011 4:13:23 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: onedoug; windcliff

Adventures from your family tree ping.


13 posted on 06/22/2011 4:14:17 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: stylecouncilor

Yeppers. I’ll bet you didn’t know that his name was actually Jose Jimenez.


14 posted on 06/22/2011 4:14:55 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: Argus

Well, was he a democrate? if so perhape he has been voting, so now they might have to take him off the voters list


15 posted on 06/22/2011 4:15:26 PM PDT by munin
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To: stylecouncilor

I’m so glad such highly intelligent folks wish to run our healthcare system....


16 posted on 06/22/2011 4:20:38 PM PDT by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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To: stylecouncilor

Did he even receive any benefits?

SS didn’t start collecting until January 1937 and the first payout started January 1940.


17 posted on 06/22/2011 4:27:58 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: stylecouncilor

Then he can still vote if the SSA thinks he’s alive.


18 posted on 06/22/2011 4:30:18 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: stylecouncilor

Then he can still vote if the SSA thinks he’s alive.


19 posted on 06/22/2011 4:30:18 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: stylecouncilor

Go ahead and follow through with the death certificate. The SocSec application will contain a lot more genealogical data than the death certificate. You already paid your money so for the price of a photocopy of the DC and a stamp, why not? Plus it will be good practice for trying to get healthcare under the coming Obamacare bureaucracy.


20 posted on 06/22/2011 4:35:48 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)
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