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1 posted on 05/16/2011 12:03:37 PM PDT by Why So Serious
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To: Why So Serious

The whole BC thing isn’t over with.......yet.


2 posted on 05/16/2011 12:08:34 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Why So Serious

You make it sound as if the birth certificate issue has died. It hasn’t.


3 posted on 05/16/2011 12:11:44 PM PDT by La Lydia ("California: When the parasites outnumber the hosts, it's all over.")
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To: Why So Serious
The Donald gave The Won cover.

A digital image of unknown provenance is not a birth certificate.

A birth certificate is an official document issued by the state embossed with the state seal.

But now, thanks to The Donald, many people believe the issue has been settled.

4 posted on 05/16/2011 12:11:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islamophobia: The fear of offending Muslims because they are prone to violence.)
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To: Why So Serious

Who never conceded that this Birth Cert is kosher??

Last I saw, there are the unexplained 9 levels of photoshopping that reconstructs the manufacture of this document - levels which cannot be replicated on a photocopier.

Where are these document experts hiding??

Did someone debunk their revelations??? - or was the world waiting for Trump to pounce, and give him the credit??


5 posted on 05/16/2011 12:12:38 PM PDT by Noob1999
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To: Why So Serious
I'm only guessing, but it appears he was a stocking horse for another candidate as Huckabee’s announcement less than 48 hours earlier seems more than coincidence.

Time will tell.

6 posted on 05/16/2011 12:13:28 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Why So Serious

That’s my theory, although I’m still waiting to see how this works out. Here’s a slightly edited account of what I wrote on the thread about Trump’s withdrawal announcement:


Trump is not a conservative. He recently said that he was a Christian, and he said that he was pro-life, and he said that he was a Republican, but from his past record, it’s extremely doubtful if any of that was true.

And all of his political donations were either to Democrats or RINOs.

He did a great job bringing the birth issue to the fore. At first I thought he might be doing it for hillary, and I was all in favor of what he was doing, although I didn’t support him for POTUS.

But then we had Obie’s charade about a new COLB from Hawaii, and then we had the bin Ladin affair conveniently take the birth issue right back off the news.

So, there’s at least some possibility that Trump was working for Obama the whole time. By raising the BC issue, he made it possible for Obie to produce his new COLB after refusing to do so for about three years. It gave Obie a convenient excuse for finally producing it, without people asking the puzzling question, Why now?

Then, blam, bin Ladin hits the news. What a coincidence! Could it be that the two things were orchestrated to happen at the same time? They’ve known where bin Ladin was for months, but they decided to do it in conjunction with the birth certificate. Maybe they told Trump when it was time to start his act, and promised him some kind of reward.

It was noticeable that Trump got a lot of exposures on liberal programs, and even the NY Times gave him their OpEd page. Did someone maybe suggest to them that it might be a good idea to do that?

The new on-line COLB is an obvious forgery. Numerous critics and experts have demonstrated that. Will Trump say anything about these very serious problems? I doubt it. Not if he was working for Obama all along.

Job done. Back to business.

All this is speculative, of course. But let’s see if Trump has anything more to say about the birth certificate, in particular about the blatant fact that the new COLB is a poorly made forgery. I’m not holding my breath.


8 posted on 05/16/2011 12:13:43 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Why So Serious

According to other posters here, it’s not so much a BC issue (although a forged BC is an issue); as an issue about whether BHO is a natural born citizen, regardless of where he was born (foreign father, as far as we know).


10 posted on 05/16/2011 12:15:04 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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Either way, the issue is irrelevant. Most Americans aren’t interested. Zero GOP figures are interested. Obama could be the love child of Bernadine Dorhn and Robert Mugabe, born in the People’s Nursery at the Kremlin itself. The courts won’t nullify his presidency, and the people will reelect him in 2012 unless presented with a better candidate.

And that’s that.


11 posted on 05/16/2011 12:16:40 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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FReepathon Day 46 - CLICK!

12 posted on 05/16/2011 12:17:21 PM PDT by RedMDer (restoration of our honor, dignity, and freedoms will save America. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Why So Serious

He did it to help Obama.

And he did too. Now less people believe Obama was born elsewhere...

I do wonder why his Kenyan grandmother said she saw him born in Kenya?


14 posted on 05/16/2011 12:21:04 PM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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UPDATE: Trump Won’t Run; Decision Follows NBC’s Contingency Plan To Recast Donald On ‘Apprentice’

UPDATE MONDAY AM: NBC made a big headline at its upfront presentation today regarding Donald Trump who took the stage to deliver the news: “After getting so many calls from NBC executives, I’ve decided that I will continue onward with The Apprentice. I will not be running for president, as much as I wanted to,” he said. “This will be our 12th season. I love Celebrity Apprentice.” Just yesterday, NBC entertainment chairman Bob Greenblatt said on a conference call that NBC was working on plans to replace Trump on The Apprentice should he decide to run. After Trump’s statement, which drew big applause from the audience of ad buyers, Greenblatt quipped, “Every network wants to make news at its upfront. Try topping that!” Over the past few months, Trump had been publicly flirting with the idea of running for President. At some point, he mulled announcing his final decision on the season finale of Celebrity Apprentice but then scrapped that idea.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/05/nbcs-contingency-plans-in-case-of-nfl-strike-trump-presidential-run-reality-on-sunday-recasting-donald-on-apprentice/


15 posted on 05/16/2011 12:22:11 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Why So Serious

Obama’s team presented a phoney BC once before, and the issue did not die.

NOW the Obama team has issued another fake BC, and the issue is dead!? I think NOT.

The media is trying to kill the issue for Obama by trying to make it appear that the release of the new phoney BC killed the POTUS aspirations of Trump’s, but it’s all BS.

It was a setup to pull the wool over the eyes of the public once again I believe. Put nothing beyond the Left. They believe they are the most clever of all.


19 posted on 05/16/2011 12:32:44 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Let's do this again:
BAMIE BC II IS AN OBVIOUS FRAUD
 
Note: this is an unretouched image. You can duplicate this simply on your own machine by going to http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf. Once the document opens in your browser, specify that you want to view the document at 1000% (10x) magnification in the little dialog box in the toolbar above the document. Then scroll down about 60% and right about 60% to to get to where you can view the Dunham and Sinclair signatures at the same time.
The different size pixels that make up the two different signatures could not occur in a single scan of an original document. This is prima facie evidence of fraud.
ML/NJ
23 posted on 05/16/2011 12:38:58 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Why So Serious

He did it because Hillary was pissed with Obama’s reliance on Jarrett for foreign policy.


30 posted on 05/16/2011 12:50:57 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Why So Serious
I am somewhat of a CT.

You sound a little AC/BC to me.

32 posted on 05/16/2011 12:51:47 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Why So Serious

Trump is something you try to avoid , but step in once in a while and track it into your car where it stinks real bad.


34 posted on 05/16/2011 12:57:39 PM PDT by Venturer
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Did the The Donald do this whole thing to MAKE Obama produce a BC?

Yes. Trump's challenge allowed 0bama to produce his latest fake, and point to it as genuine, while the MSM validated it, took a bow and said "I told you so". This was done to head off movements in several states to make candidates - not just 0bama - produce proof that they were qualified to hold the office. Now 0bama can point to his latest fake and state that this is his proof. Election officials in each state will be too timid to question validity of this fake, and 0bama will be on the ballot.

The REAL responsibility for forcing a candidate to prove their eligibility lies with Congress and the Electoral College, although I doubt you'll see any of the lilly-livered cowards in those bodies raise the slightest objection.

42 posted on 05/16/2011 1:41:57 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Why So Serious

No. No conspiracy. Chill!!!


46 posted on 05/16/2011 2:13:53 PM PDT by GoMonster (GO)
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I don't get it, this BC is "a worse fake" then the one put out by MoveOn.org orginally. Even an amateur can see it is a total fake ... if "this" document was enough to scare away Trump, then he's simply a wimp that shouldn't have run. This thing is a total fake!

I don't know if Obama himself is a fake or not, but if a person thinks this document is "proof" he's "real" then there's an IQ problem involved too.

49 posted on 05/16/2011 3:25:18 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (You are just jealous because the voices aren't talking to YOU!)
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To: Why So Serious

Directed at the issue and at Obot Moonbats:

Hussein is ineligible because his father (the one he claims anyway) was foreign. A natural born American citizen is the offspring of 2 American parents and is also born on US soil. By his own admission Hussein is ineligible on the first count. He may be ineligible on both, but he is on one already and that’s all it takes for him to be a usurper.


50 posted on 05/16/2011 4:57:55 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty (PALIN 45 The cure for "meet the new boss, same as the old boss.")
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