Posted on 05/08/2011 10:25:39 PM PDT by conservativeforpalin
Allen West voted against a bill to scrap part of Obamacare. The bill would repeal $100 million in funding for the construction of school-based health centers. Just four Republicans voted against the measure, which passed 235-191.
West spokeswoman Angela Sachitano said in an email that he believes there are bigger funding issues to be focusing on right now including the numerous developments in the Middle East, concerning Pakistan and whether there is a link to [Osama bin Laden] and the recent unity agreement with the [Palestinian Authority] and Fatah and Hamas. He voted to repeal Obamacare, and it was dead on arrival in the Senate, Sachitano said. He questions what the goal is of chipping away like this if its almost certain that the Senate is not going to take it up.
Hmmm, I question why Allen West would do this. We already know that Democrats control the Senate, but House Republicans still have to make an effort to repeal it. Plus though West rightfully said it would die in the Senate, its still a signal to America that he supports defunding and repealing Obamacare. I like Allen West and hes a great congressmen, but he shouldve voted for this repeal.
There are several reasons why an individual could claim exemption, being a member of a religion that does not believe in insurance is one of them. Islam is one of those religions. Muslims believe that health insurance is haraam, or forbidden;...”
This is an important quote, do you have a link?
this was an email. the thing I am putting out there is the idea of the definintion of this term and that it was used in the health care bill, now law that makes us subserviant to muslims.
Palin 2012.
Beautiful imagery. You betcha.
Leni
Leni
Can you link the original thread?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/03/amish_muslims_to_be_excused_fr.html
There's another commentary from around the same time:
http://www.meetup.com/The-Central-Ohio-912-Meetup-Group/messages/boards/thread/8892786/
These are, of course, opinions based on evaluation, and seem worthy of consideration.
Holly's link will take freepers to the original, current thread regarding Col. West's vote.
Probably the latter half is most enlightening. The first posts are from those who in varying degrees want the conservative congressman to "go to hell" plus those willing to pass hasty judgement on him after reading the article itself on West written by a Marxist writer.
Leni
See HollyB’s link in Post 28 here. There is a good discussion there, with a range of views. If you wish, see my Posts 124 and 125 there.
`(5) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION-
`(A) IN GENERAL- Subsection (a) shall not apply to any individual (and any qualifying child residing with such individual) for any period if such individual has in effect an exemption which certifies that such individual is a member of a recognized religious sect or division thereof described in section 1402(g)(1) and an adherent of established tenets or teachings of such sect or division as described in such section.
`(B) EXEMPTION- An application for the exemption described in subparagraph (A) shall be filed with the Secretary at such time and in such form and manner as the Secretary may prescribe. The Secretary may treat an application for exemption under section 1402(g)(1) as an application for exemption under this section, or may otherwise coordinate applications under such sections, as the Secretary determines appropriate. Any such exemption granted by the Secretary shall be effective for such period as the Secretary determines appropriate.
as the Secretary may prescribe / The Secretary may treat / as the Secretary determines / granted by the Secretary / as the Secretary determines appropriate.
As to whether Muslims are exempted, the answer is: as the Secretary decrees. That section 1402(g)(1) referenced above? - unable to locate.
Here is some useful information regarding Muslims view of insurance. Although they may view it as gambling, and would prefer a co-op type of health care, they are permissive of the idea in relationship to a country’s laws. I truly doubt religion is going to play a part in the health insurance situation. I don’t agree with ‘Obama Care’ one bit, but I do think this ‘dhimmitude’ thing is stretching things quite a bit.
http://islam.about.com/od/business/f/insurancefaq.htm
“Scholars such as Sheikh Muhammed Al-Munajjid criticise the system of conventional insurance as exploitative and unjust. They point out that paying money for something, with no guarantee of benefit, involves high ambiguity and risk. One pays into the program, but may or may not need to receive compensation from the program, which could be considered a form of gambling. The insured always seems to lose while the insurance companies get richer and charge higher premiums.
However, many of these same scholars take into consideration the circumstances. For those living in non-Islamic countries, who are mandated to abide by insurance law, there is no sin in complying with the local law. Sheikh Al-Munajjid advises Muslims about what to do in such a situation: “If you are forced to take out insurance and there is an accident, it is permissible for you to take from the insurance company the same amount as the payments you have made, but you should not take any more than that. If they force you to take it then you should donate it to charity.”
(continuation):
In countries with exhorbitant health care costs, one could argue that compassion for those who are ill takes precedence over a dislike of health insurance. A Muslim has a duty to ensure that people who are ill can access affordable health care. In 2010, for example, several prominent American Muslim organizations supported President
Obama’s health care reform proposal, under the belief that access to affordable health care is a fundamental human right.
In Muslim-majority countries, and in some non-Muslim countries, there is often an alternative to insurance available, called takaful. It is based on a cooperative, shared-risk model.
Thanks, I’ve always loved that scene.
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