Divers unearth treasure from shipwreck believed to be oldest in the Caribbean

Daily Mail ^ | Friday, April 29th, 2011 | Amy Oliver

[SunkenCiv]

Full title: 'We've just scratched the surface': Divers find 'oldest shipwreck in the Caribbean'.... and treasure that could be worth MILLIONS

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

[knarf]

Heyyyy ... that's my first wife's ring .. I gave it to her on our honeymoon down there.

I thought it was gone forever.

Look, freepmail me and I'll provide my address and you can send it back ... there's a reward, of course.

[PzLdr]

They found the Pearl?

[Former Fetus]

Before the discovery of America, NW Spain was considered the end of the earth (thus the cape of Finisterre) and the words "non plus ultra" (not any further) were part of the Spanish seal. After the 1492 the seal was modified by removing "non" (not) as seen in the following pic.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks!

[screaminsunshine]

Whoa..Nice find. Non Plus. I have some Plus Ultra but never heard of Non Plus. Invaluable but now the word is out and thay will be toast. Awesome.

[BIGLOOK]

Dating the coins doen't necessrily date the shipwreck.

Columbus made a fourth voyage nominally in search of the Strait of Malacca to the Indian Ocean. Accompanied by his brother Bartolomeo and his 13-year-old son Fernando, he left Cadiz, (modern Spain), on 11 May 1502, with the ships Capitana, Gallega, Vizcaína and Santiago de Palos. He sailed to Arzila on the Moroccan coast to rescue Portuguese soldiers whom he had heard were under siege by the Moors. On 15 June they landed at Carbet on the island of Martinique (Martinica). A hurricane was brewing, so he continued on, hoping to find shelter on Hispaniola. He arrived at Santo Domingo on 29 June but was denied port, and the new governor refused to listen to his storm prediction. Instead, while Columbus's ships sheltered at the mouth of the Rio Jaina, the first Spanish treasure fleet sailed into the hurricane. Columbus's ships survived with only minor damage, while 29 of the 30 ships in the governor's fleet were lost to the 1 July storm. In addition to the ships, 500 lives (including



This is from Colubus' fourth voyage in 1502.

[csvset]

Wow, that’s an awesome find.

[fieldmarshaldj]

What about Atlantean shipwrecks ?

[SunkenCiv]

If any were ever down there, they’d have decomposed long ago. Besides, the whole place is down there, and ships didn’t sail on dry land. :’)

[SunkenCiv]

This one reminds me of the Atocha find years ago. The ship’s manifest made it over even though the ship went down, and like nearly all the records from the imperial period, survives in the archive in Seville. So, some of the gold bars found on the wreck were weighed, and their weights compared to the weights given for the bars with those serial numbers aboard the Atocha. And they matched. That’s how they made the positive ID on the wreck.

[colorado tanker]

According to the sources I found the Indians taught Columbus the signs that a “big wind” was coming. The Governor refused to listen and sent his treasure fleet to Spain anyway. The only ship to make it was the worst in the fleet - where Columbus’ gold had been shipped.

[SunkenCiv]

That’s right — Columbus had learned the ropes the hard way, as well as through asking the locals, but the Cuban governor ignored Big C’s warnings. Columbus went to court over having not been awarded the various things promised him by the Crown, and that lawsuit was continued under his descendants. I’ve wondered from time to time whether this hurricane / Cuban governor experience was the last straw for Chris.