Grove Capital, George Soros, Trump, and Fortress Investment Group

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[Halfmanhalfamazing]

The firm was formerly known as Soros Real Estate Partners. Mr. George Soros founded Grove Capital in 1999.

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

I happened to notice all the talk about the Soros connection to The Donald. Through the process of talking about this with others, and focusing in on Fortress, I couldn't make it work. Some of the articles in question seems to be poorly written that are giving people this idea. So I found something that's written straight up. Soros founded Grove. No way to mix that up.(above)

Now, Fortress Investment Group appears (by everything I've seen) to be very friendly with Soros' outfits.

See this 1,this 2, and this 3 for what I mean.

From what I can tell, This article titled: Big names back Trump tower ; Soros, Deutsche Bank said to be in on 90-story building is primarily what has everybody's attention.

If anybody can point definitively to where Fortress is actually tied in with Soros,(money trails or advisory board members and so forth) by all mean present what you wish. But from what I can tell, the chicago tribune archive is listing Grove as the Soros group that's had a dealing with Trump. Fortress just appears to be a Soros friendly group.

Call me a stickler, but if we're going to advance this argument the details have to be correct. I just hope I didn't overlook something here.

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

Here’s another one:

www.davidrelkinlaw.com/CM/PressRelease/9.09.08%20dick.cmp.final.pdf

This is whatever case that was argued in front of the NY Supreme Court. Here is what it says:

=======Grove Capital LLP, which manages Soros Fund Management=========

So Grove is definately a part of the Soros empire. I doubt someone went up to the SCONY and made this up.

[Vendome]

Look, the guy has to get money to build his projects.

I personally don’t care about someone’s politics when it comes to money or getting a loan. I only care about the Terms and Conditions.

You gotta get moola where you can and you only get it from people who are interested in you, your performance, the project and your ability to perform in the future as relates to this project, which could be a stepping stone for further financing from a person or group.

It isn’t political. It’s just money.

[Lucky9teen]

One would think, as much as he gets bashed on his show, that if Trump was tied to Soros, Glenn Beck would be on it, like white on rice.

Yet, I haven’t heard him link the two....yet.

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

I’ve bumped people from the various threads discussing this topic.

Also, don’t forget that they all got together at some party:
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/sightings_W8PnJuKajscppD1hEvKbOK

————Oliver Stone holding court with billionaires Donald Trump, George Soros and-—————

There’s definately seems to be a here here, but how exactly do the details work out?

Anybody else know more about this whole story?

[mnehring]

I don’t know about the Stone angle but Fortress has been a major financeer of several of Trumps big projects.

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

I’ve kept my mind open to that possibility in the context of some investments a few years ago, but Trump recently said this:

————Forget Soros. Leave him alone. He’s got enough problems.———————

People want to know why. Myself included. If this is all just some coincedence, then that’s how it’ll all shake out.

[bmwcyle]

Trump is on Trump’s side is any fight. He is a selfish low life.

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

That’s a good point. Glenn has done a lot of research into Soros’ shady dealings.

If there’s a here here, it’ll come from Beck before anybody else.

[Condor51]

Ditto.

[Paperdoll]

Thanks. Keep me posted.

[mnehring]

Here is some more info. Soros, Trump, Fortress and others have a pending lawsuit against them for banking and investment fraud as well as RICO conspiracy.

http://tickerforum.org/akcs-www?post=90581

Regarding Soros’ interst in Fortress, it seems that Soros shares many partners with Fortress:
http://www.fortress.com/AboutFortress/TeamList.aspx?lid=3&view=bio&id=17

[rintense]

So what!

/s

[Vendome]

If the guy is bankrolling you it doesn’t do you any good to call the guy out unless you are looking to make an enemy forever.

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

Good catch!

That makes sense, as to why Fortress is so friendly with Soros. Soros has his people over at Fortress.

Now, the fortress site only lists that one person, but I’d bet there are more who don’t get listed. That’s the case with the EFF as well as wikipedia, IIRC.

——————From 1998 to 2000, he was the Commodity and Cyclical equity analyst with portfolio management responsibility at Soros Fund Management LLC. Prior to Soros, Mr. William Callanan was an associate portfolio manager with Furman Selz Asset Management.-—————

[Halfmanhalfamazing]

Makes sense on the surface. But if we only looked at the surface, we wouldn’t know half of what we know about Soros.

[GeronL]

I would not be surprised if Trump was a Manchurian candidate for Soros.

Not in the least surprised.

[mnehring]

Look also for his other holdings/trusts/firms like Quantum, Eurocastle, Citadel and othes. Soros owns more than just Soros Fund Management. You’ll find a lot more cross personnell.

[Segovia]

ummm; how trusting of you. Glenn HAS done a lot of research-—but lately he’s backed off most of it. Might I suggest that our esteemed Mr. Beck has also been co-opted? Have you not noticed the change in timbre in the recent broadcasts? The TV show is now all religion, and the radio show is all yuk,yuk,yuk.

[Vendome]

I think soros is a dirtbag personally but, if I had to do business with him....