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Obama Long Form Layers?
docs.google.com ^ | April 27, 2011 | unknown

Posted on 04/27/2011 10:24:09 AM PDT by piytar

If you import the original le from the White House in to Illustrator you will see the image is a clipping mask, meaning they were merged together. The next three pages show the individual pieces. If this were just a scan then why would it be able to be taken apart liket his? Why does the type-writer font look so digitized? Look at the di erence between the two signatures. One looks like it was written on the computer while the other looks like it was actually signed by hand on the document.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 2ndfake; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; colbfake; illustrator; naturalborncitizen; obama; pdf; photoshop; typewriter
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To: agere_contra

Oops. I take back my original comment.

If you look through the entire PDF, you see LOTS of places where the scanning program chose to anti-alias something when similar sections and/or characters had not been.

Just go the the doc. You see it on lines, letters, and even parts of the signature.

I’m actually chalking this up to variations in the way the scanner took in and digitally processed the document.


61 posted on 04/27/2011 11:28:27 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: Adammon

Just curious — have you used that software? Are these the types of layers you get with OCR on? http://wireupdate.com/video/2011/04/president-obamas-birth-certificate-pdf-has-layers/ I’ve seen scanning software that puts layers on top, but the base layers has always been a full image of the graphic, not one with pieces separated out like that. In particular, I’ve never seen one that “whites out” part of the base layer. Then again, I am NOT up to speed on scanning software, and the stuff I use is ancient (in computer terms).


62 posted on 04/27/2011 11:30:34 AM PDT by piytar (Talga Vassternich)
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To: piytar

Boxes #20 & #22. Notice how the last number 1 in the year 1961 is darker than the rest of the stamped date. Explainable or doctored?

63 posted on 04/27/2011 11:30:55 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (Our new state slogan: “Welcome to Arkansas. TAKE COVER !”)
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To: Fawn
found this at TSG.

• Finally, the “Signature of Local Registrar” in box 21 may be a desperate attempt at establishing the document’s Hawaiian authenticity. Note to forgers: It is spelled “Ukulele.” link

64 posted on 04/27/2011 11:33:12 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (3(0|\|0/\/\1($ 101: (4P174L1$/\/\ R3QU1r3$ (4P174L. Could it be any more simple?)
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To: OB1kNOb

My take? That’s clearly a STAMPED date. The “1” had more ink on it and was therefore slightly darker. Therefore, the scanner choose to bring that in as a black numeral vs gray.

Same thing on the anti-aliasing throughout the document.


65 posted on 04/27/2011 11:35:22 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: 100American
I thought he was born as Soetero not Obama which he change to later?

No, that is absolutely wrong. The speculation concerns whether or not his adoption, formal or informal, by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, resulted in his original birth certificate in the name of Barack Hussein Obama being sealed and replaced with a new birth certificate in the name of Barry Soetoro or other Soetoro surname. In many states, the court which gives approval for a legal adoption of a stepson by a stepfather results in a court order permanently sealing the original birth certificate and birth record, making it unavailable to the adopted child and others without a court order.

66 posted on 04/27/2011 11:35:59 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: bolobaby

That’s a fair observation. This could well be a scanning artefact, perhaps due to some kind of OCR intrusion.

But a scanner that OCR-ed just one number out of a line of equally-sized, equally-impressed numerals would be acting very strangely.

At the very least this scanned document contains a digital artifact which - perhaps innocently - mimics the effect of a crude forgery. For that reason it cannot be regarded as probative.

I would want to see a high resolution photo of the original B/C. The scanned image is simply no good. Trump, if you’re reading this, you know what to ask for!


67 posted on 04/27/2011 11:40:03 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: piytar

Another issue, which may have been pointed out elsewhere: Obama’s number on the certificate is 10641. He was born on 8/4 and the certificate was accepted on 8/8 (which itself is another issue). The certificates of twin daughters born on 8/5 and not accepted until 8/11 were numbered 10637 and 10638. Same hospital, too.

I’m wondering what Corsi has to say about all this.


68 posted on 04/27/2011 11:40:15 AM PDT by 1L
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To: ClearCase_guy
I understand. I should have made a context reference. I wasn't seeing the same thing.

The post I responded to:
Also, right click and look at document properties. The pdf file was created at 12:09PM today. Not sure what that means.

thanks
69 posted on 04/27/2011 11:41:20 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: PowerPro
My graphics expert friend commented with this:

the more interesting thing about the way the scanner made the layers is that the date in 2011 was in the same layer as some of the supposedly older information. they should have been in different layers, but for some reason they were identified by very sensitive scanning equipment as being the same. if there is a red flag here, that is it.

Your take?

70 posted on 04/27/2011 11:41:52 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: bolobaby

Ah, good catch - its stamped.

For that reason the right-hand-most number might well have been applied with more force than the others (by a right-handed stamper) allowing the scanner to treat it differently.

It’s plausible, anyway. Looks like we simply can’t draw reliable conclusions from a document scanned with OCR. Show us a photo Bambi!


71 posted on 04/27/2011 11:45:28 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: agere_contra

I’m not so sure that “4” is really a “4”. Looks more like the other “1”s.


72 posted on 04/27/2011 11:45:44 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: 1L
It may be that two different sections of the hospital or two different doctors were each given a stack of B/C forms for the week, and used them up as they went along.

It's not necessarily suspicious, at least not for 1961.

73 posted on 04/27/2011 11:48:12 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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To: piytar
I have not read all of this thread but here is my take. I opened the pdf in Illustrator CS5 and examined the layers. My thought is this: Most people think a pdf is a simple flat bitmapped document. But that is not so when you save one from Illustrator. Somebody slipped up and did not cover their tracks well.

I am a graphic artist and I often save pdfs from Illustrator. When you save as pdf, you get a dialogue box with options. One of the options is to “Preserve Illustrator editing capabilities”. I usually uncheck this option as that will make a larger file. If you are not careful, you can leave that checked on. I believe that is probably what happened here.

Why they messed with it in layers and what it looked like originally...I have no idea.

74 posted on 04/27/2011 11:48:56 AM PDT by Drawsing (The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
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To: 1L
Another issue, which may have been pointed out elsewhere: Obama’s number on the certificate is 10641. He was born on 8/4 and the certificate was accepted on 8/8 (which itself is another issue). The certificates of twin daughters born on 8/5 and not accepted until 8/11 were numbered 10637 and 10638. Same hospital, too.

The Kapiolani Hospial's maternity ward Delivery Book would have an entry for this birth which would clarify that problem. But....

75 posted on 04/27/2011 11:51:16 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: bolobaby

I don’t know. One possibility is if the scanner does multiple scans and then layers for eac color. The layered stuff all/mostly seems to be a different color. Still, I’m suspicious.


76 posted on 04/27/2011 11:53:02 AM PDT by Some hope remaining.
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To: bolobaby

Look at the “R” in Barack.


77 posted on 04/27/2011 11:58:26 AM PDT by Raebie (WS)
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To: 100American

Get real!


78 posted on 04/27/2011 11:58:55 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: agere_contra

I’ll give you the doctor, but 2 different maternity wards??


79 posted on 04/27/2011 12:03:32 PM PDT by 1L
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To: Raebie

Oh right, that R in Barack wouldn’t be stamped, but nevertheless it shows the same random artefacting as the ‘1’.

Basically the scanning- or compression- process has turned this PDF into an image with no probative value: you could hide a battleship-load of digital manipulation in this jungle of messed up pixels, or it might be 100% completely genuine. We just can’t tell without a photo.


80 posted on 04/27/2011 12:05:49 PM PDT by agere_contra ("Debt is the foundation of destruction" : Sarah Palin.)
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