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Girl Traces US Presidents' Family Tree, All Related But One
digtriad.com ^ | Aug 2 2010 | Carrie Hodgin

Posted on 04/02/2011 5:17:39 PM PDT by Germanicus Cretorian

Paso Robles, CA -- Their political party lines maybe different but one thing United States presidents could share is their family line.

A young girl in California has put together a Presidential Family Tree. Twelve-year-old BridgeAnne d'Avignon found that all the presidents but one are related to King John of England through a common ancestor.

"They are all cousins and all grandsons of John Lackland," BridgeAnne told KCOY News. The girl searched more than a half million names for months. She started with George Washington, then traced both the male and female family lines to make the connection.

KCOY reports that before this, historians were only able to link 22 presidential family trees.

The teen also found out that she is the 18th cousin of President Barack Obama. She even wrote him a letter to let him know.

The only president not linked to King John: the eight president, Martin Van Buren.


TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bridgeannedavignon; california; fartyshadesofgreen; genealogy; genghiskhan; georgewashington; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; ireland; johnlackland; kingjohn; magnacarta; martinvanburen; middleages; niallofthe9hostages; potus; renaissance; robinhood; runnymede; steelydan; unitedkingdom
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To: OldNewYork

Naill of the Nine Hostages - You know, I think everyone from that area of Europe is descended from him.!

When I was first tracing my history, Malcolm II of Scotland and Naill were the first royalty I found. It was very exciting.


61 posted on 04/03/2011 8:44:27 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: hecht
Two theories ~ Stanley Ann, as his baby mommma, would be white. Or, Grandpa Dunham, as his baby daddy, would also be white.

You'll notice that in the USA the onliest relatives claiming this guy as blood kin are white. Blacks reject the idea they could be relatives.

62 posted on 04/03/2011 8:45:46 AM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: Celtic Conservative

The surname Kennedy is very common in Ayrshire (SW Scotland), which is where many of the Protestant settlers in Ireland came from. So a Kennedy in the US is often of Scots-Irish ancestry. I don’t know if further back in the Middle Ages the Scottish Kennedy family and the Irish Kennedy family were related.


63 posted on 04/03/2011 10:46:21 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Scoutmaster
Years ago I corresponded with a fifth cousin who is a Mormon. Later I found that he had entered the data I had sent him into the Mormon records--in some cases the information was uncertain or may have been wrong, but now others will see the records and assume all the information is accurate.

I did the research to get my mother into the DAR. I found some distant cousins of hers who had joined the DAR under their common ancestor, and she joined under that ancestor. I now think that the records that were accepted for that ancestor's Revolutionary War service were for a different man of the same name, not even related to our ancestor (unless related way back in England) and that our ancestor was living in a different state at the time of the Revolutionary War.

The first person to join the DAR under that ancestor was a prominent lady and they may have been less inclined to scrutinize the evidence too closely in her case--but I think there were many cases of sloppy research in the early years. My understanding is that they are now much stricter in their standards of proof.

I know the SAR is very demanding in requiring proof of the ancestor's service and in proving descent every generation down to the person who wants to join.

64 posted on 04/03/2011 10:54:43 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
I got a certification from the State of New York that one of my ancestors was a Rev War Veteran and our genealogy to prove it and my daughter sill did not want to join the DAR.
65 posted on 04/03/2011 11:11:50 AM PDT by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: Little Bill
The ancestor whom my mother used to join the DAR under was living in New York state at the time of the Revolution--soon afterwards he moved to Virginia. Her cousins had joined under a man of the same name in Virginia. She did have a different ancestor in Virginia who had served in the Virginia militia (we later found his obituary which mentioned his Revolutionary War service and called him "one of the fathers of our freedom") but by then she was already a member so it didn't matter.

When I first got started I wrote to a great-aunt whom I had never met and told her what I was doing--she acted as if joining the DAR was the last thing she would ever think of doing. It may be that the Marian Anderson debacle caused many women to write off the DAR as a group they wanted nothing to do with (although my great-aunt didn't specifically mention that). That was a blunder by one person or a few individuals in the organization but it gave the whole society a negative image at least in many people's minds.

66 posted on 04/03/2011 12:35:35 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: muawiyah

“Dutch wasn’t foreign in New York whereas English was.”

You’re right - I’d have been more accurate if I’d said ‘language other than English’ instead of ‘foreign language’.

The German spoken in Pennsylvania, and other places, for instance, is older than the United States of America, even if people have been lynched here for speaking German in modern times. Delaware still has the colors of Sweden in its state flag from the time they were their colony and Swedish was spoken in the area. And Washington commended the support he had in the Revolution from Americans of Irish origin whose first, and preferred, language was Gaelic, but you’d not get that impression here from some posters.


67 posted on 04/03/2011 12:51:50 PM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: Verginius Rufus
In my case, though my family went West in the 1830’s, most remained in Up State NY, so a little search in Saratoga County was all that was necessary. As for my daughter she is half Polish and Lithuanian there fore she will do things for no discernible reason.
68 posted on 04/03/2011 2:05:53 PM PDT by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: OldNewYork

I read that during the Revolutionary War, when the Continental Army was staying in an area with a lot of German speakers, one of the officers got the idea he would like to hear German spoken, so he went to a German church for Sunday services. Afterwards he remarked that German wasn’t that much different from English after all—he had even been able to make out bits of what was said. Then he was told that the sermon had been in English.


69 posted on 04/03/2011 2:33:17 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: I still care
I've found PA very difficult to research, but there are more records available now. My German family Fuchs or Fox, well I found them in Ohio but not where they were supposed to have lived in Lancaster County, PA. I hate those censuses where all you have are the 1's for male, female over, all across. Then it was males only that were named, but I think the first time was 1860 was when the whole family was counted, named and ages given which was a huge help (and can throw you off bigtime). Females are the hardest. I do female lines, too, and it is through those I found the royal ties.

I don't trace back to any Howards that I've found. Tudors. I get them all confused with Plantagenets, Stuarts, should know my English history better.

My anecdotal material is the most interesting even if they weren't royals. I visited Warwick Castle in the 70's, and now I find that I may be a direct descendant to of first earl, Thomas? Newburgh, origin Normandy, changed to Newberry in early Am.

My favorite one takes too long to tell.

If you have Strong in your lineage, it's a good bet you are a Mayflower Descendant. I never found any for me.

The genetic traits are fascinating if you can find a few clues, not much got recorded way back when.

Yes, there's no end to this stuff, and I got burned out on mine unless something new crops up and did a lot of research helping a distant cousin find missing lines in his enormous database. Two in particular he badly wanted. Well, we worked together and found them, but I did a lot of the grunt work. He loved old cars and trucks, so we tracked down a family who had a factory in the Bronx, found tons of stuff in the archives of the NYT about that. He was thrilled to meet the grandson who showed up at a reunion (I can't get to them out east). The other one was a family name killed in the Oklahoma City bombing. I stumbled over their most recent origins. They were very hard to research because they were a missionary family in oh boy, near the Congo, and rarely showed up on censuses, we used the ones they did, passport records and Wheaton church records. One was still there last I knew. The ones in the bombing shared his surname; mine was a variant, but when we got them back far enough, I was a little more closely related than he, 9th cousins.

I could find a lot more if I could travel. Isn't it exciting when you break through a brick wall? Some I doubt I ever will.

Yes, the common names are the very worst! That's where I got major stuck.

70 posted on 04/03/2011 3:08:11 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: I still care

The first census with all the names may have been 1850, not sure any more. I carry a lot in my head when I work with it but quickly forget details when I haven’t for awhile. Seriously, I do have the overall outline in my head which is why I can even talk about some of it without my data.


71 posted on 04/03/2011 3:18:43 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: hecht

Looks very fittingly like just another in a long line of All-red Rats.


72 posted on 04/03/2011 6:16:50 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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This sounds a little like crap to me -- searched *millions* for months. Got no sleep, didn't go to school, didn't leave the house, didn't even take a shower, and had to eat at the computer.

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73 posted on 04/04/2011 4:54:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Germanicus Cretorian

My half-brother, who makes Art Bell or David Icke look like chartered accountants, has been saying this for years.


74 posted on 04/04/2011 4:58:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: centurion316
Charlemagne who's family killed the true royal line (the Morovingian king) and as "mayors of the castle" were usurpers. And aren't we all descended from "Lucy" according to National Geographic?
75 posted on 04/04/2011 5:05:16 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("You cannot invade the US There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Yamamoto)
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To: Savage Beast; SunkenCiv
Charlemagne to Obama is 39 generations.

39 = 3 X 13

From Biblical numerics, we quickly see:

3 Divine completeness and perfection

13 Apostasy; depravity and rebellion, raised, by the 3 above, to unholy levels of ‘perfection’ & completeness

39 Disease

Therefore, we can conclude (as we already know) that President Obama is a perfectly and completely depraved and rebellious Apostate, who is a disease upon our Land!

76 posted on 04/04/2011 5:46:18 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: Germanicus Cretorian

Countdown to the 2012 racing forms...what’s the word on Palin, Romney, West, Huck, etc?


77 posted on 04/04/2011 5:50:34 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Public education is WELFARE.)
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To: Germanicus Cretorian

If she keeps at it she’ll find that one of them is descended from a jackal.


78 posted on 04/04/2011 8:42:04 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (If every person were like Sarah Palin, this world would be a peaceful, beautiful world to live in.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So, we have a monarchy after all. Sigh... All those wars, and it comes down to this.


79 posted on 04/05/2011 5:20:45 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Germanicus Cretorian
(good thing I'm a few days late to this thread)

Okay FReepers I'm Disappointed!!

79 Posts and not ONE mention of ... KEVIN BACON. The 'original' Six degrees of Separation Man :-)

80 posted on 04/05/2011 5:26:52 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A.Einstein])
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