Posted on 03/02/2011 11:41:36 PM PST by ConservativeMan55
I'm always at work when the first showing of Glenn Beck airs.
Lately I've been staying up and watching the 1am repeat.
Today he talked about how financial terrorists could have caused the collapse of 08.
He's also talking about middle eastern countries falling.
He showed a map and asked the question.. if all the countries fall around Iraq.. how will our troops even get out of that country???
He then urged everyone to stock up on food.. and said while America waits for Charlie Sheens next tweet.. Americas enemies are planning our downfall..
“how will our troops even get out of that country??? “
Airplanes. We’ll invent these really cool flying machines and fly them out! No? Well, that sounded good.
Beck is a good guy but he can be a Drama Queen at times.
Your words are a great comfort - thanks for taking the time to explain...
You and Allegra cleared this one up - thanks for sharing.
I'm ex Air Force. Flight instructor, combat crew, plus did a bit of strategic war planning. Studied military history at the Air Force Academy (class of 1973). I did not see Beck's show, but it sounds like he raised a legitimate strategic issue.
It's almost certain that running away from Iraq would be done under VERY adverse circumstances. Assuming we somehow got our people out, getting our equipment out would be even more difficult.
Believe me. Getting our troops out by air if every country surrounding Iraq suddenly turned hostile would be VERY difficult. Assuming we could provide a secure air space over a hostile country (i.e., an act of war...), planes would need a place to land, and a secure place to take off from. They have limited range, so you can't just fly them to anywhere.
Assuming we could get the troops to Israel, we still could not get their equipment out. That would require naval or land access.
Naval would require loading in a hostile port within easy range of Iranian attack, plus secure passage through the Hormuz Strait. Land would require secure passage through Iraq and Jordan. If both these nations had turned hostile, that would mean fighting our way out.
Iraq is actually NOT our worst problem. Afghanistan is. We have insecure supply lines in Afghanistan. The nation is land locked and surrounded by potentially hostile countries. If we were chased out of the country there is absolutely no way we could get our equipment out. We MIGHT be able to secure the air with planes based on aircraft carriers, but getting thousands of people out with planes small enough to land on an aircraft carrier would be impossible. That means we would have to fly them from the nearest friendly airport. The nearest friendly airport could easily turn out to be India. Under these circumstances we could not fly this type of plane over Pakistan, so they would have to first overfly hostile territory to the ocean, and then take the long way around to India. The logistics would be a nightmare, as would maintaining a secure departure point.
Scoff all you want. But some of the worst military disasters in history were caused by troops getting cut off, unable to be resupplied, and unable to fight their way to safety. For relatively recent examples, look at the British at Dunkirk. Getting their troops out was a miracle, and their equipment was lost. Adolph Hitler blundered his way to the loss of hundreds of thousands of troops in Russia by insisting on strategies that got them surrounded and cut off. Napoleon lost an army when he could not supply them during a Russian winter. The French lost Indochina when a key part of their army was surrounded and cut off from resupply at Dien Bien Phu. The list goes on and on.
With a competent Commander in Chief I would not expect a disaster scenario to have much chance of actually happening. But with the Imposter as CIC, I'm not sure he has the ability to prevent this. I'm not even sure he would WANT to prevent it.
As bad as this alleged National Command Authority is, I still have confidence down the chain of command in their commitment to taking care of our people. I do not believe they would let such an unlikely scenario occur. Neither would Congress or the American people.
Thank you for your logical argument.
It’s frustrating to hear people say “we have these things called airplanes”
As if we’ll just be able to fly over hostile countries with no problem.
I say to those people.. how about you get into a plane and fly over a country trying to shoot you down?
You wouldn’t do it.. but you’d certainly send our troops into harms way. I’m glad those people aren’t in charge or we would have a real disaster.
Ping!
I think our articles were in the same thought process
I didn't see the show yet, but is it possible that he was asking "how we get our troops out of Iraq" in the sense that we would hate to leave Iraq and its people high and dry after liberating them? It makes no sense that he would ask such a lame question outright.
If you want a religious "enemy" don't attack a patriot, Mormon Beck, save your barbs for the pseudo-religion of the Moslem Brotherhood and their ilk who want us destroyed, not left alive and well as Beck clearly wants.
Unfortunately glenn book is barking up the wrong tree!!!
Thanks FARS!
Tell me the difference between Alex Jones and glenn book???
Beck just realizes what many do not .Obama is President and totally clueless.
Not completely surrounded. Our forces can leave by sea from the south, or via Turkey to the north. If Turkey gives any hard time at all, then they are out of NATO (if not in the Obama administration, then guaranteed in the following Republican admin). Turkey is already not likely to join the EU -- being kicked out of NATO would sink them.
Yo, CM55.
Somewhere, there is a young soldier or crewman or sailor or airman, keeping watch. Right now. For each of us. His life is on the line. He knows this.
He may be alone. He may be just out of basic.
He’s gone ‘all in’ on what he believes, for the sake of the United States.
Most of us haven’t had to do this. We may soon learn we have no choice. So, now is the time to stock up and man up.
And pray God we have the honor our warfighters have.
Ooorah.
Alex....if America goes down, the whole world goes down, including wherever you are....there will be no SS and no drawing money out of your bank....
perhaps as a conservative forum which should start HOPING and PRAYING that we find our way, instead of predicting that we won't...
don't get me wrong....I see horrible things too..but somewhere, somehow, we have to have some HOPE too....and faith goes a long way too....
“.if America goes down, the whole world goes down, including wherever you are....there will be no SS and no drawing money out of your bank”
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Yes, I agree that America’s failure would be felt world wide.
I have no business or banking left in America, and my survival will be like everyone else in a third world country.
I have deep roots in America, as my great great great uncle was UNCLE SAM (war of 1812, Troy, NY)
As I point out, I did not leave America. America left me.
You might also remember, America was founded by people just like me, but maybe you are native American.
If Obozo is reelected in 2012, it will be the final nail in the coffin.
I still vote, and that is all anyone can do.
In the meantime, I will make the best of my senior years
as a retired businessman.
Reminder of reality.
In his own words, Oba-Hussein admits hiding his hate of America - to become president and outpours his love for Islam. Not a rumor, not birthering but actually seen on national television!
http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/03/obama-set-aside-his-hatred-of-america.html
This is an urban legend, and you've been had.
This makes us all look bad.
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