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Posted on 02/15/2011 3:54:50 PM PST by Palter
A Central Florida man believes he has discovered what's left of a highly advanced ancient civilization by using some new technology, and says some of the evidence is right here on the Suncoast.
"Looking further, I begin to find the real beauty in Cortez." John Jensen is no archaeologist. He says he's just an amatuer researcher of what's under the water. Well, what he says he's observed from the sky could rewrite the history of the world. "I recognize some patterns that appear to be man-made, or at least not natural."
He's identified more than 60 sites in places like Louisiana, New Jersey and Florida as what he calls ancient channels, canals, and harbors. A handful are from Tampa down to Ft. Myers, including one in Englewood and one around Cortez in Manatee County. "There's a horseshoe with a circle in the center of it, and other lines around it that suggest that they're not natural."
Jensen says the sites are now about five feet underwater, and says there are underwater banks and edges which indicate they were built before the sea level rise six to seven thousand years ago. "That's the result of the process of digging above water, is to dump the refuse on the bank beside it."
"They definitely were modifying their environment. A canal system or harbor system is not that unthinkable at all." Jodi Pracht is the Archaeologist for Sarasota County. She says our area has some of the oldest evidence of human inhabitance in all of North America, dating back between 10,000 and 12,000 years.
As far as Jensen's claims she's not so sure. "At the years this gentleman is talking about, and the level of modification...the science does not support that."
At places like the Indian Mound park in Englewood there is evidence people lived here an awfully long time ago. However Jensen says his evidence suggests it's much bigger then we ever thought. "(The diggings) probably were not made by some folks wearing leather buckskins, breechcloths and baskets on their heads."
Jensen says the widths of some of the underwater waterways are larger than the Panama Canal -- something which would have required some serious innovation. "Underwater sunken systems that require technology to produce that is beyond or at least equivalent to what we have today."
Jensen says he has uncovered some of the sites in just the past few months; perhaps finding something experts have yet to even see, let alone attempt to explain...at least for now. "The science is very conservative. There is probably a lot more going on out there than as a professional you would agree with out loud," says Pracht.
Naturally occurring or man made? How about from something not human at all? Jensen says he doesn't know, but perhaps the answers are just beyond the water's edge. "Depth reading and core samples will absolutely rewrite everything we know about history."
Jensen says his work and his theories are catching on. His website, which he says he makes no money on, is now receiving more than 25,000 hits a month.
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Ballard’s offshore research has spawned an FR topic or two, nothing recent.
Where God grows souls, smile...
Pagin Mr. Van Daniken . . .
Well, in this case I think it’s a reference to some natural process(es).
I have a feeling that at the end of the day most if not all these structures will be found the result of a natural process.
That’s amazing. In some islands I’ve been to the coral is protected and high priced when you buy a piece. I bought a beautiful large piece in Puerto Rico and it got broke in half in transit.
The site omits Arizona. The Hohokem built canals in the Phoenix basin and the Sonara desert for hundreds of years and supported a very large population.
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There are huge (coral) rockpits all over South Florida.
Fort Lauderdale has an incredible amount of man-made canals - rock and soil dredged up built up “islands” that many more expensive homes were built on.
An overhead map of Fort Lauderdale would show this.
If you dig down into Florida you will find shells and coral rock all over the state - Florida was once completely under water -
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Maps of some ancient canals at the top, but exact locations aren’t noted. Seems it would be a hard place to grow things with all that coral rock underneith.
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I recall them using huge self-powered earthmovers to scoop up move “fill” and also to level the land that was being developed
We used dump trucks to go down to the mucklands around Davie for loads of marl fill and then nutrient-rich black top soil
Farmers there planted on raised rows of beds and converted old Buick and Olds car engines (for water pumps) to run on tractor fuel - yes - alternate fuels used years ago by dumb dirt farmers and ranchers - they wrapped the fuel lines around the exhaust manifolds and sometimes ran those pump engines day and night to irrigate crops or pump out fields after the floods from hurricanes
South Florida was the winter truck crop supplier of America
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Ah, you’re back. Yes, I’ve been there and have seen the tropical growth. Also know the plants you grew. Lots of topsoil needed over time.
In Texas City the ground was gumbo clay and topsoil was always needed.
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LOL!
That wet marl (clay and -) was a heavy load in a dump truck!
We had a Ford with power-boosted brakes - usually great - until you realized you were rapidly approaching the busy Old Dixie Hwy. and you are not slowing down.
One scary Saturday afternoon experience.
Almost my last!
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The inertia kept you going, huh? Opposite troubles with an empty truck bed on wet roads, the rears tend to hydroplane.
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Exactly - Esp. PUs - such as the Ford Twin-I-Beam front suspension
Too “much spring” in the empty bed of a PU - non-radial factory tires - or worse - mud tires on the back
On snowy or wet roads the rear can instantly assume “terminal oversteer” - Radial tires all around and adding the factory option front stabilizer bar will cure about 80% of the problem - and watching speed on country curves
GM PUs did not have as much that problem - they had 2 front unequal length A arms on each side
People tend to want to drive a truck as if it is a car
The NASCAR Fan Scenario
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[People tend to want to drive a truck as if it is a car]
Well, that’s a “for granted” here in Texas! Speed limit’s 70 MPH and that’s what we go, lol.
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