[Palter]

Old, but I can’t refuse a Madoc thread post.

[freedumb2003]

Actually, most kids learn that it was Leif Garrett, child Tiger Beat heartthrob and now actor on those “World’s Dumbest” shows, who discovered America.

I am pretty sure no one thinks Chris Colon did it...

[Salamander]

Barry Fell/America B.C. ping

[JoeProBono]

Mandan Bull Boats and Lodges

[stormer]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think if you sail westward from Wales, you end up in Ireland...

[Bratch]

The Legend of Prince Madoc and the White Indians

[Roy Tucker]

And the Indians greeted the Prince with the famous line, “Aaah, what’s up, Madoc?”

[skr]

Just goes to show that finding is not as important as keeping.

[hennie pennie]

Do the melungeons ever claim heritage from the Welsh?

[bert]

There was always a problem because when friendly Indians asked the Welshmen where they from they replied Cywnegorswtmgicelistaw. The Indians thought they were being rude and killed them

[blam]

A link to the 2003 posting:

(Prince) Madoc In America

[kaylar]

If there are any adult fantasy novel fans on this thread, check out Excalibur, by Sanders Anne Laubenthal.It's part of the acclaimed, lamented Ballantine 'unicorn head' series. This novel has as background the alleged Welsh voyages to the New World. I've read it; it's not my favorite Arthurian novel (that would be Bernard "Sharpe series" Cornwall's trilogy) but it is very good nonetheless.

[SES1066]

Anybody, but especially scientists, who assume that the Prehistorical era(s) were static and lacked adventurers / explorers is a fool. The concept of seeking greener fields just over that hill probably originated with Ogg&Ugg.

There is a Smithsonian Scientist who postulates that the Clovis Arrowhead may have been a copy of similar arrowheads being used in Ice Age France and brought to the New World by nomadic hunters of seals and the like moving along the ice sheets.

To assume that there have not been individual and small group influences is a fallacy BUT it is Columbus who made the New World a lasting reality as his discovery was the PERMANENT ONE!

[ThanhPhero]

I don't like to see that phrase- "_ _ _ _ _discovered America" in a title. One person "discovered" America effectively and that was the Italian sailing for Ferdinand and Isabella. It seems that lots of other folks had been back and forth across the Atlantic for millennia but they did not initiate any large scale colonization or trade. Columbus brought the Americas to the attention of all of maritime Europe and brought Western Civilization to the Americas. Thus, so far as it is relevant to civilization, Columbus discovered America and even he probably traveled with prior information given that he had access to maps that showed something out there.