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Might Gays Be Better Soldiers? (Barf)
good.is ^ | Dec. 17, 2010 | Cord Jefferson

Posted on 01/01/2011 12:21:11 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

With the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” looking imminent, the next question on America’s mind is what a military with openly gay soldiers will look like. Most experts, including Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen, believe that a repeal of the discriminatory law won’t at all endanger the military’s stability. And a large majority of enlisted troops agree with them. But what if a military that welcomes gays and lesbians with open arms doesn’t just not fall part, but actually shows remarkable improvement?

For decades now, scientists seeking to understand why people are gay have done neurological research on homosexual versus heterosexual brain patterns. Though these experiments might initially sound like phrenology, pseudoscientific hooey that attempted to predict mental ability based on the size and shape of the skull, in fact, they have been academic and replicable. And while there’s still no consensus as to what makes someone gay, the differences between gay and straight brains that these studies have uncovered are not insignificant.

Take the 2008 work of a team of Swedish scientists in Stockholm. Using magnetic resonance imaging and 90 male and female volunteers, the group discovered that gay men’s brains are strikingly similar to those of straight women, which might explain homosexual men’s proficiency at languages:

Using brain-scanning equipment, researchers said they discovered similarities in the brain circuits that deal with language, perhaps explaining why homosexual men tend to outperform straight men on verbal skills tests -- as do heterosexual women.

(Excerpt) Read more at good.is ...


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KEYWORDS: commies; dadt; elite; homosexualagenda; morons
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Wow!!! Didn’t see this coming! /s


61 posted on 01/01/2011 4:47:48 PM PST by panthermom
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To: Shade_Trees_56

Actually it will back fire sooner than that. 85% of all discharges for DADT were initiated by the person themselves and with less than 4 mos. in service. They just lost their get card!


62 posted on 01/01/2011 4:56:55 PM PST by panthermom
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To: Grizzled Bear
I’ve had friends who got hit on by homosexuals, but it never happened to me. I’m NOT complaining.

On my first boat (submarine) we had a new division LPO (leading petty officer) that came onboard when the old one rotated to shore duty. The guy had some issues, one of which was suspected homosexual in nature. This guy was a royal pain to work for and made patrols suck -his innuendo, his vindictiveness to any that did not 'play' along etcetera all contributed to low morale. In my opinion, the only thing that restrained him was fear of being exposed.

NOW with open deviance and disorder permitted I can only imagine what life will be like for true patriots subjected to this brand of scum backed by government power...

63 posted on 01/01/2011 5:00:40 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Sherman Logan; stormer

My point exactly!

Then again, homosexual men seem to have a lot of influence on the fashion industry.

Wouldn’t you love to have that kind of influence on the nation’s military? /SARC


64 posted on 01/01/2011 5:11:16 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: DBeers

Too many people, even on FR, don’t recognize that homosexuality is a symptom of very serious mental illness. I’ve met a few homosexuals in my life. Before I knew of their “orientation,” I had already determined that the individuals were unhappy and self destructive.


65 posted on 01/01/2011 5:25:14 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Being that there is a disproportionate amount of homosexual serial killers, and that violence plays a big part in the homosexual lifestyle, would might argue that homosexuals would make good soldiers.

Being that homosexuals choose a lifestyle that goes against the laws of God, it goes without saying that homosexuals are atheists. When you “unleash” atheists who often times are psychopatic when it comes to violence into a military environment, the chances of atrocities against innocent civilians (or even enemy soldiers that have surrendered in battle) are greater.

Of course the prostitute mainstream media would never report that the atrocities committed were by homosexual soldiers; the “black mark” would be placed on the US military in general.

As shown in “The Pink Swastika”, the homosexuals under Hitler’s command did some pretty gruesome things.
http://www.thepinkswastika.com/5294/index.html


66 posted on 01/01/2011 5:32:22 PM PST by aSeattleConservative ("...the American Christian ... would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees!" G. Washington)
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To: stormer

Support for the homosexual agenda is not wanted and not welcome on FR. I’ll thank you to leave it off.


67 posted on 01/01/2011 6:37:13 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: Sherman Logan

So when the Christians chased the sick pederasts from Greece they all went to Afghanistan,right?

The ancient Greeks were the inventors of many Western Civilization advances but homosexual molestation of children wasn’t one of them.
That wickedness was a leftover barbarian custom now more common in contemporary morally and biologically dysfunctional societies like those that embrace Islam.


68 posted on 01/01/2011 6:58:37 PM PST by Happy Rain
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To: stormer
A nation can ill afford to exclude patriots from serving their country.

That is patently not true. Service must be rendered by the fit. Homosexuals have mental disorders that affect many facits of their behavior and consequently their fitness.

There is no use disrupting the functionality of the larger whole for the sake of "feelings".

69 posted on 01/01/2011 7:24:15 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Happy Rain
The ancient Greeks were the inventors of many Western Civilization advances but homosexual molestation of children wasn’t one of them.

Contradicted by all the literary and archeological evidence. They didn't invent the practice possibly, but they certainly glorified it more than any other people in history, making it a basis of their civilization.

The Greeks were not alone in these practices, by any means. The samurai and many other martial peoples had similar customs.

I don't approve of such customs, but the fact remains they have been very common down thru history. That we think they are sick doesn't change the facts as to how common they have been. Lots of sick things have been common in history.

70 posted on 01/01/2011 7:46:10 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
You are skilled at rationalizing bad behavior—you may not “approve” of the pederasty of the ancients and you yourself admit you cannot say where they got the counter biological and empirically proven disease enabling mentally damaging and sick practice of molesting boys—but you certainly make a slick argument for it's acceptance.

The Founders were great men IN SPITE of some of them indulging in the evil of slavery—by your “logic” they were simply great “slave owners,” and that slavery was a virtuous contribution to American civilization.
Socrates and Plato molesting boys has absolutely NOTHING to do with their contributions to Western Civilization.
The “gay” agenda begs to differ.

71 posted on 01/02/2011 3:36:06 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: Free ThinkerNY
...Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen, believe that a repeal of the discriminatory law won’t at all endanger the military’s stability. And a large majority of enlisted troops agree with them.

Why haven't we actually seen these "large majorities?" Only 25% answered the survey, and most of them weren't enlisted, frontline troops.

72 posted on 01/02/2011 4:50:36 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: stormer
Such a stupid post, it almost doesn't warrant a reply. But here is a rebuttal:
1) Yes, there are people afflicted with same-sex attraction. There are pedophiles and necrophiles, too. What's your point?
2) "Gender preference" (I assume you are trying to equate normal homosexuality with sexual perversion - it won't work here) has everything to do with patriotism when radical social experiments on our military go against every value this country was founded upon.
3) No 2 answers number 3 - moral, social nihilists are a direct threat to our country; why should they be allowed to "serve" (attack) from the inside?
73 posted on 01/02/2011 4:57:51 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: Savage Beast
Think of all those man-hating lesbians machine-gunning the terrorists!

LOL that's just what I was thinking.

To be honest I think that's the area where you will see the biggest change. I suspect there were more gay men in the military back during the draft than there are now, not many were willing to admit they were gay.

74 posted on 01/02/2011 5:25:22 AM PST by Dusty Road
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To: Happy Rain
You are a very strange person.

Recognition of the facts of history does not constitute approval of everything that happened during that history. For instance, it is possible to recognize that the Germans of WWII, even the SS that committed such great atrocities, fought with great valor while still believing the cause for which they fought was among the greatest evils in history.

Your point about the Founders is quite precisely mine about the ancient Greeks. The Greeks built one of the greatest of civilizations despite their enthusiastic participation in such evils as slavery, aggressive warfare, oppression of women and, yes, pederasty. None of which they saw as evils, but rather as positive goods.

But it is also, unfortunately, historically inaccurate to claim the decline of Greek civilization was "caused" by its rampant homosexuality, as many try to do. Since the heyday of the practice correlated quite nicely in time with the golden age of Greece, and pederasty became less influential during the Hellenistic period of decadence that followed.

The facts of history are what they are, and they don't always fit into a neat package that suits our personal ideologies.

That some gay activists may try to portray Greek pederasty as a cause of their greatness is even more misguided. As I said, I believe they were great despite the many evils of their civilization, as indeed were the Founders and every other group that has shown greatness.

75 posted on 01/02/2011 5:54:58 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
So we agree—however the original post of yours I responded to was clearly a subtle acceptance,perhaps unintentional,of pederasty in history—disguised as stating the “facts.”
Now you deny such an opinion.
Glad we cleared that up.

Still you said,”that we THINK (pederasty)it is sick,”
No normal person “THINKS it's sick—they know it is IN FACT sick.

You need to practice your tone so as not to be misunderstood again—there are too many Leftists editing history to serve their unwholesome agendas.

Peace FReind.

76 posted on 01/02/2011 11:08:33 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: Happy Rain

I went back and looked at my original post, and dang if I can see how you got acceptance or approval out of it. I have just been fascinated by history for 40 years and enjoy discussing it.

But whatever blows your skirt up.

I got a laugh out of your apparent notion that I was approving of homosexuality. Let me try to explain why.

I find odd the notion among many conservative Americans that homosexuality is something peculiarly evil. Certainly I believe it a moral wrong, but in the New Testament, for instance, the apostle Paul does not specifically single out homosexual acts, but rather includes fornicators, idolators, adulterers, thieves, covetous persons, drunkards, revilers and extortioners WITH homosexuals as among those who will not inherit the kingdom of God. In fact, Paul sticks “those who have sex with men” right in the middle of the list. 1 Corinthians 6.

There are few people alive who haven’t committed at least one of these sins during our life, and if we are honest most of us will agree we have committed more than one of them, often many times. Personally, I’ve committed at least four of these during my life, which is why I try to not be overly judgmental of others as people. Not that I always succeed in that.

From my perhaps limited understanding of the Bible’s teaching on the subject, homosexual acts are just one group of the good many sexual sins included in the Greek term porneia, translated into English as fornication, and which consists of all sexual activity outside marriage.

The odd thing to me is that many if not most conservative Americans appear to have decided, in practice if not necessarily in theory, that sexual sins involving people of opposite sexes are not really sins, at least before marriage, while those involving homosexuality are uniquely sinful. Certainly there is a gread deal more denunciation of A than B, from the pulpit and elsewhere. I don’t see how this notion can be derived from the scriptural text, although it is easy to see how it might be popular among the considerable majority who are tempted to commit one and not the other.

Thus, since I believe in the Biblical idea that ALL sex outside marriage is fornication, and equally prohibited by God, in all likelihood I am more sexually conservative than 90% of freepers.

I agree that the “homosexual agenda” of trying to portray such sins as positive and good is peculiarly evil, but not tremendously more so than the “sexual revolution” of the 60s and later, which appears to have been nearly totally successful at creating a similar climate of acceptance for opposite-sex fornication, serial polygamy/adultery thru divorce, etc.

Homosexual acts involving boys are of course peculiarly evil, but then so is sexual molestation of girls. The additional evil springs from the corruption of innocence, not so much the gender of those involved.

If you can point out where I’m wrong, using logic or facts or scriptural reasoning rather than denunciation, I’m always willing to reconsider my position.


77 posted on 01/02/2011 12:45:26 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
The odd thing to me is that many if not most conservative Americans appear to have decided, in practice if not necessarily in theory, that sexual sins involving people of opposite sexes are not really sins, at least before marriage, while those involving homosexuality are uniquely sinful. Certainly there is a gread deal more denunciation of A than B, from the pulpit and elsewhere. I don’t see how this notion can be derived from the scriptural text, although it is easy to see how it might be popular among the considerable majority who are tempted to commit one and not the other.

The odd thing to me is why you persistently attempt to equivocate homosexual sex with heterosexual sex, an abomination with sin.

Give it a rest already Jim Wallis wannabe. YOU are the one with notions.

78 posted on 01/02/2011 3:01:49 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers
why you persistently attempt to equivocate homosexual sex with heterosexual sex

Because the Apostle Paul did?

I see you do not intend to make any effort to answer with anything other than, "You're wrong." Which leaves us nothing more to talk about.

Have a nice evening.

79 posted on 01/02/2011 3:07:32 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
I see you do not intend to make any effort to answer with anything other than, "You're wrong." Which leaves us nothing more to talk about.

Sophistry and comparative platitudes are irrelevant. Next time you wax eloquently about Greeks history exploring and even promoting the homosexual disorder on one hand while referencing Christianity on the other try first to determine some cogent position to represent. As it is now, you pull all sort of reference that is by default and context contradictory -all this, to promote homosexual sex as acceptable...

Did the Greek perverts know of Christ?

Where was Christianity back then when old men were sexually abusing young boys?

Are we a nation founded upon Christian principles or Greek mythology?

Do we compare the laws of other countries to determine what is just -the morals of other countries to define what is moral? Why compare other periods in history -especially BC?

And on and on...

80 posted on 01/02/2011 3:24:21 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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