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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2011 inductees include Neil Diamond, Alice Cooper: who else ?
ew ^ | Dec 15 | Margaret Lyons

Posted on 12/15/2010 10:14:36 AM PST by JoeProBono

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland will induct Tom Waits, Neil Diamond, Alice Cooper, Dr. John, and Darlene Love, according to the New York Times. Jac Holzman, who founded Elektra, and Art Rupe, who founded Specialty Records, will receive the Ahmet Ertegun Award, which is given to music-industry executives. Pianist Leon Russell will receive the Award for Musical Excellence. The ceremony will be held in March


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: easylistening; halloffame; halloflame; jannwener; music; rockandroll; rollingstoned
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To: dfwgator; Lazlo in PA
I remember the SCTV takeoff with Al Jarreau giving up his jazz singing career to become a cantor.

HAH! With Sid Dithers.

You guy remember this hillarious SCTV skit with Perry Como?

"Perry Como is still alive!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1yvS_m_7eE&feature=related

101 posted on 12/15/2010 1:02:24 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: Lurker
I saw Tommy James on a double bill with Spirit (another great IMO, Randy California wrote some great stuff) back in the day. It was at a local nightclub in Schaumburg. The place held about 250 people and it was damn near empty. To the credit of both bands they played full sets and put their all into it.

That's too bad...Almost a Spinal Tap-ish scene. I saw/heard TJ on youtube. The effort's there, but not the pipes nor the band.

102 posted on 12/15/2010 1:05:29 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: ßuddaßudd

My bad, thats not Neil Diamond...


103 posted on 12/15/2010 1:12:35 PM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: Conservative Tsunami
Folks are free to define what rock and roll is to them. I think the HoF takes into account albums sales (popularity) more than anything.

Diamond wrote some pleasant songs but IMO he was a performer without an edge. To me rock and roll is all about edginess.

104 posted on 12/15/2010 1:18:28 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: Conservative Tsunami

This was back in the 80’s. They were pretty darned good still. Spirit had all the original members, not sure about the Shondells, though.


105 posted on 12/15/2010 1:20:19 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: LS
Well, the fact that you would put it that way shows you don't know much about the Fudge.

I will concede that point, sir.

From 1968-9, they had one of the top selling albums---not just a song---and were reknowned as the hottest concert band out there.

Yes, but it was just a single album riding on the coattails of a single hit - albeit, a big one.

They toured with Led Zeppelin and in a rarity Zep and Fudge alternated who opened the set. When they toured in 69 with Hendrix, they frequently captured the show. Deep Purple, for one, cited the Fudge as their inspiration.

Granted, but let's not forget that Zep and Deep Purple were still in their respective relative infancy, while Hendrix even opened for...The Monkees.

The only thing that hampered them from being better known was a disastrous second album, a "concept album" that featured almost no music and a lot of news clips interspersed with the "Beat Goes On." This was the brainchild of their producer, the legendary Shadow Morton, and he later admitted he screwed up the band.

Because the years '68-'70 were at the cusp of a "psychedelic" era between "pop" & "rock," quite a few bands gambled on experiential projects. IMO, Fudge never established themselves sufficiently to justify such a gamble. Only the Moody Blues was able to pull off succeeding in that genre at the time - and even for them their audience was niche.

Their symphonic rock easily predated groups like "Electric Light Orchestra," and individually three of the four members were at one time considered the best on their instrument in the business---Mark Stein, Tim Bogert, and Carmine Appice.

Timing is everything. It's too bad they never reached an audience that might have appreciated their work.

106 posted on 12/15/2010 1:20:24 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: Conservative Tsunami; LS
Mark Stein, Tim Bogert, and Carmine Appice.

I still have a vinyl copy of "Beck, Bogert, and Appice" around somewhere. Rod Stewart did the vocals IIRC.

107 posted on 12/15/2010 1:22:56 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: GSWarrior
I think the HoF takes into account albums sales (popularity) more than anything.

In some cases it's obvious; In others, I shake my head. There seems to be an AA element thing going on there. Who was buying anything from Bonnie Raitt??

Diamond wrote some pleasant songs but IMO he was a performer without an edge. To me rock and roll is all about edginess.

Thanks for answering that bell and for the honesty.

The "edge" thing. I know it validates "rock" for some, but as in art, I don't get why "edginess" necessarily validates and defines either exclusively.

108 posted on 12/15/2010 1:25:36 PM PST by Conservative Tsunami
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To: Conservative Tsunami

Rock ‘n’ Roll Animal is the best thing Lou Reed has ever done, and it is totally due to that live band, not him. Supposedly Lou reed hates Rock ‘n’Roll Animal because the band is so hot they basically eclipse his weirdness. The guitarists, Dick Wagner and Steve Hunter completely slay on that album. I hope they get inducted with Alice.

Freegards


109 posted on 12/15/2010 1:35:24 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: humblegunner

Thanks.

I got a news alert email from the website this a.m.

Rock on forever, AC!


110 posted on 12/15/2010 1:35:44 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: 6SJ7

“you left her because she... liked Neil Diamond?”

AFAIC, that’s justifiable grounds...:))

[yay Alice!]


111 posted on 12/15/2010 1:37:45 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: JoeProBono

Well, you know what they say...

“Tom Waits for no one”


113 posted on 12/15/2010 1:44:57 PM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: JoeProBono

Favorite Waits song of all time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83kwa9VfG74


114 posted on 12/15/2010 1:45:55 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: OldDeckHand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83kwa9VfG74


115 posted on 12/15/2010 1:48:40 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Conservative Tsunami

“Why do some of you people hate folk-rock?”

It makes us think of stinking hippies?....:))


116 posted on 12/15/2010 1:50:17 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Conservative Tsunami

“FWIW, ZERO Rap ought to inducted - it’s NOT “Rock” by any definition.”

Rap killed MTV.

I agree wholeheartedly.

NO rap in TRRHOF.


117 posted on 12/15/2010 1:53:08 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Conservative Tsunami

“The Stooges??”

Iggy is iconic.


118 posted on 12/15/2010 1:54:56 PM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Salamander

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119 posted on 12/15/2010 1:55:21 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Salo
"“Order of Bruce Springsteen with U2 Clusters.”"

Hilarious!

120 posted on 12/15/2010 1:55:32 PM PST by RabidBartender
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