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Shocking revelation: Former Air Force personnel disclose UFO, alien-related threats
NECN ^

Posted on 09/27/2010 1:34:18 PM PDT by marbren

(NECN: Washington) - A press conference was held this afternoon at the National Press Club in Washington, where at least a dozen former U.S. Air Force personnel, mostly officers who worked on secret projects connected to sensitive nuclear weapons sites, are admitting that they were privy to UFO and alien-related incidents -- that occurred during their time of service.

In this clip, you will hear from: Retired Air Force Captain Robert Salas, Former Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Dwayne Arneson and Former Air Force Official Bill Jameson

(Excerpt) Read more at necn.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: humor; missiles; panstarrs; quix; qx; ufo; usaf
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To: Cronos

I belong to a nondenominational church led by a very prophetic Pastor—who is aware of such realities but seems disinclined to deal with them and prefers not to talk about them publically.


981 posted on 10/18/2010 8:40:50 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Repeating:
what does YOUR group have to pronounce on the existence of aliens?

Do you have any pronouncements from your religious group on aliens and what your group believes the aliens are about?

982 posted on 10/18/2010 8:40:50 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Cronos

I have not interrogated Pastor at length about the UFO’s/ET’s.

My sense is that she is aware that they are real and are in league with satan. I believe that she is aware that they will play a significant role in End Times prophesied events.

I don’t think she wants to know more than that.

In the congregation, I think probably less than 10%, maybe less than 5% are well informed, alert, prepared for such stuff.


983 posted on 10/18/2010 8:44:48 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Cronos

One of the Deacons is aware . . . I don’t recall how much from being my friend and how much before he met me.


984 posted on 10/18/2010 8:45:40 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Cronos

How about your church/Pastor/congregation?


985 posted on 10/18/2010 8:46:21 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta
your link does not name or identify the 30 or so families.

And, yet if there were just 30 or so families, then it would not explain how come there are new super-rich, like the Korean chaebols, the Indian Tatas, Ambanis, Mittals etc. who were not rich 110 years ago (ok, the Tatas were, but not the Ambanis or Mittals) and yet are now in the top 10 richest in the world and have tons of influence.
986 posted on 10/18/2010 8:51:18 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Quix

So, is it right to say that your definition of globalisation is 30 families ruling the world?


987 posted on 10/18/2010 8:53:45 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Quix

Actually, the MSM hasn’t quoted anyone accurately — you keep posting stories about how they lie about your theories on UFOs and how they don’t post the truth as you say.


988 posted on 10/18/2010 8:58:11 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Quix
I already told you -- there are no Church pronouncements on this.

Repeating:
what does YOUR group have to pronounce on the existence of aliens?

Do you have any pronouncements from your religious group on aliens and what your group believes the aliens are about?
Links please on your groups pronouncements -- I already told you The Church has no pronouncements on these, so now I turn your question back to YOU.
989 posted on 10/18/2010 9:02:59 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Cronos

Purportedly no one gets super rich without their sanction.

One either joins the group or is bought out or is eliminated.

I have no big need to try and bring you up to speed on globalism.

You can watch plenty of videos at

http://www.abovetopsecret.com

There have been plenty of whistleblowers leave the group and report out. Most are now dead.


990 posted on 10/18/2010 9:04:35 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Cronos

It’s probably not quite as tidy as that but that’s accurate enough.


991 posted on 10/18/2010 9:05:19 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Cronos

I hope you’re not trying to be difficult or dense.

1. Propaganda and disinformation work best with parts of truth, half-truths as well as brazen disinformation.

2. The MSM have quoted the Vatican officials accurately in the sense that there are videos of the officials publically saying the same things to meetings that they said to reporters who quoted them in print media.

3. Are you going to say that when the normally lying MSM quoted the Pope’s sermons in Boston or wherever that they lied about what he said???

I *THINK* LIKE TO THINK that you are more reasonable than that.

I can bother to find a video link if you would watch it.


992 posted on 10/18/2010 9:08:19 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Quix
I have not interrogated Pastor at length about the UFO’s/ET’s.

My sense is that she is aware that they are real and are in league with satan. I believe that she is aware that they will play a significant role in End Times prophesied events.

I don’t think she wants to know more than that.

In the congregation, I think probably less than 10%, maybe less than 5% are well informed, alert, prepared for such stuff.
My question was not a poll on what individuals in your group believe -- you can run the same poll amongst a group of Presbyterian, Catholic, Methodist, etc. etc. --> those are INDIVIDUAL's opinions.

What I asked for was a pronouncement from your group -- you said The Church made one, I point out that it has not and I ask you for a similar pronouncement from your group, if any
993 posted on 10/18/2010 9:09:40 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Quix
Well, my definition of globalism is different -- hence the question to you to find out your definition. Globalism is the spread of ideas, people, culture, goods, services etc.,so that you get tomatoes from spain, mangoes from India, crabs from Alaska, etc. all in your place and you have neighbours from around the world. That is globalism. And that is what has been happening since the mid 1800s.

Also, many people in the developing world have been getting richer without anyone's sanction. Look at China or India for example --> middle classes in both exceed 300 million people
994 posted on 10/18/2010 9:12:26 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Quix
1. The MSM has never accurately quoted The Church "pronouncements" on aliens amongst us as there have never been any such pronouncements, hence these are made up by the MSM, just as the MSM made up what pronouncements YOUR group has made on the subject

2. Yes, the MSM has misquoted or mischeviously excerpted what the Pope has said, even during sermons --> you can check any number of these on the net. They will say "Church says world is flat" and if you read it closely they will say "our informed sources say that some parts may be considered flat for topographical purposes" -- viz. they make up stories to sensationalise. There have been no Church pronouncements on aliens amongst us. HAVE THERE BEEN ANY PRONOUNCEMENTS BY YOUR GROUP ON ALIENS?
995 posted on 10/18/2010 9:21:57 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Cronos; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ..
I'm beginning to wonder yet again if it is really possible to have a civil reasonably thorough dialogue with you about this topic.

I have answered that question. I noted that my pastor is disinclined to speak about the topic publically.

My group is this congregation. That's it.

I have also noted that I don't believe ANY Pentecostal denomination has given a public pronouncement on the topic.

I have also noted that some well known authors in some denominations have written books and probably articles about such . . . some of which MAY have been published in house-organ publications. Most such famous Christian authors are not known by their denomination and are exceedingly independent of them.

Saying the RCC has not given a pronouncement on the topic is greatly misleading . . . so misleading as to be greatly false. Certainly the Vatican is taking this sensitive topic very carefully forward in very calculated, incremental steps. One would expect that.

The Vatican has, in the person of the officials of the official Vatican observatory--both the one in Italy and the one near Tucson--given a number of pronouncements going over the last 10 years. Some of those are available

IN PUBLIC MEETINGS AND VIDEO
IN THEIR OWN WORDS
SPOKEN BY THEIR OWN MOUTHS.

IF you are unwilling to deal with those basic facts, OK. I'll spend my time elsewhere. Just please avoid fooling yourself that such are not basic facts because they are.


996 posted on 10/18/2010 9:35:17 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
They tend to be more tuned into supernatural things of all sorts and to wage more spiritual warfare against the forces of darkness than other groups do.

Quix, I'm in that group but I cannot say I ever attributed the UFO phenomena to demonic warfare. In fact, I never bothered to listen or read anything about UFO's. Who saw them, who didn’t - it didn’t matter to me. Never read an article here or elsewhere about them. The amount of interest it had to me was 'zero'. MY extent to anything UFO was bringing my children to see the 'cute little ET' movie many years ago.

Looking back now at that time, we all agreed what fun it would to be to befriend ET! Yes, 'make nice' was in play and came through by the producers.

THEN I'd see posts by others as if you are promoting UFO, your belief in them? Like on a natural realm. I was confused and then read some more of your posts and realized you were WARNING about the demonic realm. Did they even understand - you aren’t saying they are ‘real’ but ‘real demonic’.

Perhaps, I too, earlier would have made a flip comment because of my 'zero' interest and 'zero' knowledge in UFO's w/o reading/understanding it. But even a flip comment would have been more than my interest could bear.

THEN while scrolling through a thread I read one of your posts about the possible connection with the apparitions. It was at that point something clicked - it ALL started to make sense. Now that was about one or two months ago.

THEN I continue to see others using intimidation tactics (demonic, also) against you, posting pixs as if you are 'out there'. Isn't that typical - trying to shut your warning. The same people who don't take Scripture - TRUTH - serious for they only dabble in it.

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."

NOTICE how they wrestle with you and give no credence to the DARK FORCES, spiritual wickedness in high places. Again, they go against Scripture. Doing that makes one TOTALLY open to DECEPTION.

So, who else could satan deceive but ones who readily accept deception? Just to keep the Maryology real - the dark forces appear as an angel of light to them! Brilliant - keep the lie alive and make it stronger. AND IT WORKED because It is Written was ignored, once again.

From the very beginning satan used deception to Eve AGAINST what God REALLY SAID.

It’s all about making Jesus a side issue and make God’s Word questionable. That’s satan’s job from the beginning - and they can’t understand that. For one, Jesus is already a side issue and God’s Word already takes a back seat to RCC doctrine/teachings.

They are amazingly deceived. No words will release them from it. I'm all for telling once and then once more - then let them learn the hard way. REMEMBER, the gate is narrow and ONLY A FEW FIND IT.

SO, IMO, my time is better spent praising God and planting HiS WORD/HIS SEED within reading/meditating on The Word and witness the manifestation of His Word in my life. And share it with those WHO ARE TRULY SEEKING. NOT the ones who discount His Word for man-made teachings.

LASTLY, I thank you. While I'm very much aware of the dark forces in this evil world - I ignored the UFO 'junk'. Now I see it, rightly so, as another demonic tactic to deceive. And THE WORD backs it up.

Ecclesiastes 1:9 "What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun."

Dark Forces in heavenly places. Deception from the beginning in the garden until the end - when Jesus returns. THANK YOU!
997 posted on 10/18/2010 9:55:15 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Quix
Quix:
I have also noted that I don't believe ANY Pentecostal denomination has given a public pronouncement on the topic.
FInally!

And as I said, the Church has not given a public pronouncement on this topic either
998 posted on 10/18/2010 9:58:07 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Quix
So, let me repeat
The Church has not given a public pronouncement on this topic of aliens amongst us either, neither have the Pentecostal denominations

999 posted on 10/18/2010 10:01:31 AM PDT by Cronos (This Church is Holy,theOne Church,theTrue Church,theCatholic Church - St. Augustine)
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To: Cronos

I gather you are not interested in seeing the video of the Vatican official.

When you discover you are wrong and are interested in discussing it . . . I may still be available.


1,000 posted on 10/18/2010 10:05:09 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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