Shocking revelation: Former Air Force personnel disclose UFO, alien-related threats

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[marbren]

(NECN: Washington) - A press conference was held this afternoon at the National Press Club in Washington, where at least a dozen former U.S. Air Force personnel, mostly officers who worked on secret projects connected to sensitive nuclear weapons sites, are admitting that they were privy to UFO and alien-related incidents -- that occurred during their time of service.

In this clip, you will hear from: Retired Air Force Captain Robert Salas, Former Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Dwayne Arneson and Former Air Force Official Bill Jameson

[MHGinTN]

Meant to ping you two ...

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you for sharing your understanding, dear brother in Christ!

[MHGinTN]

Here's the Youtube of the DNA explanation by Dr.Pye. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moEYqLdupIA&feature=player_embedded#at=506]

[Quix]

AMEN! AMEN! THX THX.

[SonOfDarkSkies]

The 'creation' from God's perspective for humankind is an Earth thingy as explained in Genesis.

That's my impression also.

Just as when Paul (in Rom 5:12) said...

[A]s by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned...

he (Paul) was speaking of the Earth, not the universe.

[Alamo-Girl]

Indeed. Thank you for sharing your insights, dear brother in Christ!

[SonOfDarkSkies]

You are a treasure!: ^)

[Legatus]

The Bible disagrees with you.

This kind of language needs to stop in all discussions. "The Bible" doesn't disagree with me: YOU disagree with me. Your interpretation of Sacred Scripture is not "The Bible", it's your interpretation. Now, it's perfectly fine that your interpretation and mine conflict. Your interpretation is not synonymous with Holy Writ, NEITHER is mine.

I don't even acknowledge that non-earth born physical life that possesses a rational soul exists, at best it's a theory and if some wild LSD induced fantasy turns out to be true we're going to have to rethink a few things.

Romans 8:22... is St. Paul saying what you think he's saying? St. Paul is saying LIFE SUCKS FOR EVERYONE even the elect so don't go all crazy expecting earthly existence to be wine and thornless roses. If Martians show up we're going to have to reconsider "all have sinned" before we get all preachy. But I'm unconvinced that Martians or anybody else other than angels and demons are "out there".

As for effectiveness of holy water... if there are nephilim running around it's not gonna just be spiritual warfare, that's why my sanctuary lamp would be jet powered and my relics would be attached to a baseball bat. If you want to etch "The Name of Jesus" on a machine gun that would probably be a good idea too. And for goodness sake I'm joking in the first place.

[Quix]

Perhaps Alamo-Girl; would be willing to assert more of her convictions and musings on what

ALL CREATION

means. Perhaps some Greek scholars will chime in.

Of course, it means, all that is seen and unseen, to me.

I don't think God uses a daffynitionary.

Romans 8:21-23 (King James Version)

 ²¹Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

 ²²For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

 ²³And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Romans 8:21-23 (Amplified Bible)

²¹That nature (creation) itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and corruption [and gain an entrance] into the glorious freedom of God's children.

    ²²We know that the whole creation [of irrational creatures] has been moaning together in the pains of labor until now.^(A)

    ²³And not only the creation, but we ourselves too, who have and enjoy the firstfruits of the [Holy] Spirit [a foretaste of the blissful things to come] groan inwardly as we wait for the redemption of our bodies [from sensuality and the grave, which will reveal] our adoption (our manifestation as God's sons).

   

Cross references:

1. Romans 8:22 : Jer 12:4, 11

   Romans 8:21-23 (The Message)

    ^18-21That's why I don't think there's any comparison between the present hard times and the coming good times. The created world itself can hardly wait for what's coming next. Everything in creation is being more or less held back. God reins it in until both creation and all the creatures are ready and can be released at the same moment into the glorious times ahead. Meanwhile, the joyful anticipation deepens.

    ^22-25All around us we observe a pregnant creation. The difficult times of pain throughout the world are simply birth pangs. But it's not only around us; it's within us. The Spirit of God is arousing us within. We're also feeling the birth pangs. These sterile and barren bodies of ours are yearning for full deliverance. That is why waiting does not diminish us, any more than waiting diminishes a pregnant mother. We are enlarged in the waiting. We, of course, don't see what is enlarging us. But the longer we wait, the larger we become, and the more joyful our expectancy.

   Romans 8:21-23 (The Message)

    ^18-21That's why I don't think there's any comparison between the present hard times and the coming good times. The created world itself can hardly wait for what's coming next. Everything in creation is being more or less held back. God reins it in until both creation and all the creatures are ready and can be released at the same moment into the glorious times ahead. Meanwhile, the joyful anticipation deepens.

    ^22-25All around us we observe a pregnant creation. The difficult times of pain throughout the world are simply birth pangs. But it's not only around us; it's within us. The Spirit of God is arousing us within. We're also feeling the birth pangs. These sterile and barren bodies of ours are yearning for full deliverance. That is why waiting does not diminish us, any more than waiting diminishes a pregnant mother. We are enlarged in the waiting. We, of course, don't see what is enlarging us. But the longer we wait, the larger we become, and the more joyful our expectancy.

   Romans 8:21-23 (New Living Translation)

   ²¹ the creation looks forward to the day when it will join God’s children in glorious freedom from death and decay. ²² For we know that all creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. ²³ And we believers also groan, even though we have the Holy Spirit within us as a foretaste of future glory, for we long for our bodies to be released from sin and suffering. We, too, wait with eager hope for the day when God will give us our full rights as his adopted children,^[a] including the new bodies he has promised us.

   Footnotes:

   1. Romans 8:23 Greek wait anxiously for sonship.

      Romans 8:21-23 (Young's Literal Translation)

       ²¹that also the creation itself shall be set free from the servitude of the corruption to the liberty of the glory of the children of God;

       ²²for we have known that all the creation doth groan together, and doth travail in pain together till now.

       ²³And not only [so], but also we ourselves, having the first-fruit of the Spirit, we also ourselves in ourselves do groan, adoption expecting -- the redemption of our body;

      Romans 8:21-23 (Darby Translation)

       ²¹that the creature itself also shall be set free from the bondage of corruption into the liberty of the glory of the children of God.

       ²²For we know that the whole creation groans together and travails in pain together until now.

       ²³And not only [that], but even *we* ourselves, who have the first-fruits of the Spirit, we also ourselves groan in ourselves, awaiting adoption, [that is] the redemption of our body

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DOES ALL CREATION that we have any information on and perception of suffer death and decay? Doesn't Scripture teach that death came by sin?

[MHGinTN]

Paul was also speaking/writing of the human spirit, which can be in the human soul, the person be walking around, yet the spirit is dead. It is with the incident of being born again that life comes into the human spirit. All since Adam fell have inherited a human spirit which does not have the Life of God in the person of The Holy Spirit until one believes in the Grace of God in the person of Christ Jesus. God places the earnest of our inheritance within our human spirit ... and that’s why none can snatch us from His hand.

[Quix]

Hmmmmm . . . Not, to me.

[SonOfDarkSkies]

Yep!

[Quix]

Harumph.

One would think you’re trying to take all the fun out of hyperbole.

However, I’m not the only one and Proddys are not the only group making tons of heavy duty all inclusive statements hereon! LOL.

OK, my interpretation of Scripture indicates . . .

As to . . . ‘anyone’ else, ‘anything’ else being ‘out there’

There’s more than the Starchild skull evidence to indicate there is.

However, THAT’S quite significant enough.

Doesn’t it give you some pause about your constructions on reality?

Have you watched this excellent video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moEYqLdupIA&feature=player_embedded#at=506

Why do I feel like Gallelio’s lawyer! LOL

[Alamo-Girl]

(blushing here) Thank you for your encouragements!

[SonOfDarkSkies]

Let me make sure I understand you correctly.

Are you saying that because of the Fall of Man (on Earth), beings in some distant star system a gazzillion light years away (not that I suggest such beings even exist) also fell from Grace because of Adam?

But, angelic (spiritual, non-corporeal) beings except for the fallen angels--all also created by God--did not fall?

[Legatus]

ARGH! Not much I hate more than dualing Scriptures, but oh well. Romans 8:12-25, from the KJV even just to keep everyone happy:

Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

So, we believe in Jesus, why isn't everything wonderful on earth for us? Everything stinks here for everyone including us, but it's not so bad because we have something worth hoping for.

Obviously that's just my take on it and as we can all see it's a very good thing I wasn't given the responsibility of doing any of the translation work. Nevertheless that's pretty much what the passage is and it's never a good idea to force something in Sacred Scripture.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for the parallels of that beautiful passage!

Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. – Romans 8:21

By my spiritual discernment, the “glorious liberty” above is the new heaven and new earth:

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, [and be] their God.

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.

I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. – Revelation 21:1-7

Everything from Genesis to Revelation moves to that end, that final cause, the new heaven and earth replaces the present heaven and earth (physical and spiritual.)

Also as to why it is worded this way:

Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

by my discernment, we Christians have already arrived at our final destination even while yet in the flesh. The rest of Creation will be caught up when He makes it all anew.

For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. - Colossians 3:3

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20

What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? - I Corinthians 6:19

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. – Romans 8:38-39

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. – John 5:24

God’s Name is I AM.

[Quix]

Right.

Let me quote from Andy Alcorn in HEAVEN pp 125 & 126

I think I'll scan the two pages--lots worth reading there.

Here they are:

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I think he and his sources say it much better than I can so I'll let it go at that, for now! LOL

[Quix]

Beautiful Scriptures . . .

Thanks for your commentary on them.

I’m curious how you might respond to the Alcorn pages and assertions.

[JoeProBono]