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Shocking revelation: Former Air Force personnel disclose UFO, alien-related threats
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Posted on 09/27/2010 1:34:18 PM PDT by marbren

(NECN: Washington) - A press conference was held this afternoon at the National Press Club in Washington, where at least a dozen former U.S. Air Force personnel, mostly officers who worked on secret projects connected to sensitive nuclear weapons sites, are admitting that they were privy to UFO and alien-related incidents -- that occurred during their time of service.

In this clip, you will hear from: Retired Air Force Captain Robert Salas, Former Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Dwayne Arneson and Former Air Force Official Bill Jameson

(Excerpt) Read more at necn.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: humor; missiles; panstarrs; quix; qx; ufo; usaf
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To: djf; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

Your perspective is a familiar one.

However . . . I suggest that

NOTHING

in your ENTIRE life experience . . . NOTHING, ZIP, NADA, 0.00000000000000000000000000000000% OF ANYTHING

has

EVER

DEMONSTRATED TO YOU

THAT

one can safely, successfully [and certainly NOT wisely]

PRESUME

to dictate to a greatly higher ranking entity

what that entity MUST do

to comply with

YOUR EXPECTATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR RELATIONSHIP.

Yet, you persist in demanding that God conform to your expectations and requirements for relationship.

Curious, that.

NOTHING in your experiences suggests that would be a successful strategy.

Yet you persist with it as though it is somehow, oddly,

your “divine” right.

I’m sure God’s VERY impressed with your cheek.


HINT:

ALMIGHTY GOD

DICTATES

the terms and manner of RELATIONSHIP.


1,581 posted on 02/13/2011 7:49:27 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: djf; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; ...

Or . . . as Bill Cosby says . . .

NOAH, HOW LONG CAN YOU TREAD WATER?

and as God says to Job . . .

Where were you when I laid the foundations of the world?


1,582 posted on 02/13/2011 7:50:25 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Cut it out.

You know what I’m saying. We have chatted in the past.

Answer like a man.


1,583 posted on 02/13/2011 7:52:07 AM PST by djf (Touch my junk and I'll break yur mug!!!)
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To: djf

BTW, He doesn’t show HIS face to mortals.

Even Moses only got to see, in Moses’ mortal state, the ‘back part’ of God’s GLORY . . . whatever that mysteriously means.

On the other hand, Christ said those who’ve seen Christ, have seen The Father . . . whatever that means in precise terms.


1,584 posted on 02/13/2011 7:52:57 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: marbren

Interesting article World leaders flock to Afghanistan on this page

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1432.htm


1,585 posted on 02/13/2011 8:14:04 AM PST by jetson
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To: Quix

There are things we will never know.
There are things we can never know.

Mathematically, there are things that are true that will never be proved, there are universes we will never see or touch.

But I need something, OK? Maybe he can’t or won’t land on the White House lawn.
Then he can land at the supermarket parking lot. Somewheres.

Something to believe that is real and concrete and has meaning and follows some kind of karma logic and is not idle fantasy.

And the sad fact is aliens, if they show up, will only prove I am even closer to the ants that live in my yard than I thought... not closer to God.


1,586 posted on 02/13/2011 8:17:29 AM PST by djf (Touch my junk and I'll break yur mug!!!)
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To: djf; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...

How about this.

I have found that God is almost always willing to meet us part way.

HOWEVER, IT’S ALWAYS STILL ESSENTIALLY ON HIS TERMS, IN HIS WAY, IN HIS TIMING.

PLEASE CONSIDER

asking Him

TO MAKE HIMSELF REAL TO YOU IN TERMS YOU CAN TRUST AND MAKE SOME USEFUL SENSE OUT OF.

Now the trust will involve some faith.

HE HAS DECLARED THAT IS A REQUIREMENT FOR A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM, TO PLEASE HIM.

HE WILL NOT REMOVE THAT PRIORITY.

However, He certainly knows we are but flesh and quite flawed in our capacities to apprehend Him in a functional way. He is virtually always willing to meet us part way

AS LONG AS we recognize HIS being Almighty God in terms of authority, rights, etc.

Otherwise, there is no order, all is meaningless chaos.

I would not guess how long He might take to respond.

He tends to do so when we least expect it and in ways we least expect.

THEN we have a choice—to accept the evidence, or not.

It is usually not emphatic undeniable proof. He requires too much faith to totally remove all need for faith.

However, HE DOES, IS VERY GOOD AT providing SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE, SUFFICIENT FOUNDATION for faith in ways very tailor made to our unique person and experiences.

I will certainly pray accordingly.

I will ask Him to touch you in the area of your deepest need, your deepest longing, your specific unique personality in ways that only He could know.

Others will be praying as well.

We shall see.


1,587 posted on 02/13/2011 8:41:21 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thank you, Quix!! I appreciate you and your prayers very much!! God Bless!!


1,588 posted on 02/13/2011 8:52:57 AM PST by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: djf

There was nothing unmanly in that post.

I’m surprised by your response.

I don’t recall a LOT of past exchanges with A LOT of people.

Sorry . . . just not the sort of thing I tend carry in my working memory without a LOT of frequent use.

The fact remains that you have NOTHING in your experience to suggest that an extremely lower ranking entity

can DICTATE successfully

the nature, terms, means, timing, structure, format, agenda

of a meeting with the greatly higher ranking entity.

NOTHING.

Yet you DEMAND

ALMIGHTY GOD comply with your expectations and sensitilbites.

He’s not in that business.


1,589 posted on 02/13/2011 8:56:44 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: jackv

Are things still improving?


1,590 posted on 02/13/2011 8:57:49 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks for that. Good illustration.


1,591 posted on 02/13/2011 9:06:31 AM PST by Joya (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house ...)
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To: djf
No disrespect, but what if someone were to tell you that they were once in a very serious situation where they were about to be killed and that God saved their ass?

If someone were to tell you that, what would it count for?

Fair question?

1,592 posted on 02/13/2011 10:32:23 AM PST by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: djf
If he expects subservience and obedience, then he could at least show his face and make it known.

Well, He did in the person of Jesus.

However if you choose to dismiss that well documented historical event, He is still capable of making Himself know to those who sincerely desire to know Him.

Life is no bed of roses and all of us struggle with the sin and evil that exists in the world, wondering why, and all the answers just seem like so many platitudes.

However, physical creation demonstrates the necessity of a creator.

The greater the capacity for good, the greater the capacity for evil. If the creator were not perfectly good, he would be so completely evil that it would obliterate everything not of him self. Thus the creator HAS to be good in spite of our not understanding how he could allow evil to exist.

Philosophers have been wrestling with the question for eons and I don't think anyone is likely to come up with an answer now.

However, challenge God if you want. Dare Him to prove Himself to you. He can handle it; it's not going to offend Him any. And it will be a win/win situation for both of you.

1,594 posted on 02/13/2011 11:01:20 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

I don’t think challenging God, if he exists, is a good plan. Isn’t that what Satan is all about?

If God were to honestly show himself to me, then I would believe. But he hasn’t so far. And I don’t see him when I look in a mirror, I see me. So I have reason to believe in me.


1,595 posted on 02/13/2011 11:11:39 AM PST by djf (Sometimes you are The Old Man and the Sea. But most times, you are the fish!!)
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To: djf
And for every kid who busts his rear and gets into the NBA, there are 1000 who end up in the gutter with needles stuck in their arms, so I AIN'T buying the "You can do anything you want" bs or the "Heaven is in YOU" philosophy either.

If heaven was in me, then I would be in control, and nobody, including me, wants that.

You are absolutely correct there.

Perhaps you might try reading some CS Lewis. Mere Christianity and The Problem of Pain are two of his works that I have found very helpful. He works through the reasoning for both topics and deals with them as well as any I've seen. I'm still slogging through The Problem of Pain, dealing with my own health issues and watching other people I know work through their own difficulties.

Nobody escapes dying and it's really beyond our comprehension when it is violent and sudden or a result of evil. And that's not easy either. I want a nice, comfy predictable life with no problems. That would be my road to choose.

There are no easy answers and we may not ever get any. But along with Job, I want to be able to say, *Though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him.*

1,596 posted on 02/13/2011 11:18:57 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: djf
There are others posting on this thread who are probably wiser than me in dealing with whatever it is that's tormenting you.

I can only note that you didn't answer my question and butt outta here where I probably shouldn't have butted in to begin with.

1,597 posted on 02/13/2011 11:25:57 AM PST by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: OKSooner

I replied to you in 1593


1,598 posted on 02/13/2011 11:33:39 AM PST by djf (Sometimes you are The Old Man and the Sea. But most times, you are the fish!!)
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To: djf
Whatever.

It must really suck to be in the situation you're in.

1,599 posted on 02/13/2011 11:40:19 AM PST by OKSooner (Obama confessed "his muslim faith" on the George Stephanopolous show on September 7th, 2008.)
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To: OKSooner

Actually, I have just about everything I could ever want.

Except answers.

The greater the passion, the greater the pain.

Whatever, eh?


1,600 posted on 02/13/2011 11:45:58 AM PST by djf (Sometimes you are The Old Man and the Sea. But most times, you are the fish!!)
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