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Shocking revelation: Former Air Force personnel disclose UFO, alien-related threats
NECN ^

Posted on 09/27/2010 1:34:18 PM PDT by marbren

(NECN: Washington) - A press conference was held this afternoon at the National Press Club in Washington, where at least a dozen former U.S. Air Force personnel, mostly officers who worked on secret projects connected to sensitive nuclear weapons sites, are admitting that they were privy to UFO and alien-related incidents -- that occurred during their time of service.

In this clip, you will hear from: Retired Air Force Captain Robert Salas, Former Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Dwayne Arneson and Former Air Force Official Bill Jameson

(Excerpt) Read more at necn.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: humor; missiles; panstarrs; quix; qx; ufo; usaf
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To: wolfcreek
Asking the wrong person about that. I just saw a light in the sky doing something weird in the distance. Duration about 2 cigarettes worth (5 to 10 minutes). It was my first and only observation in 64 years. Happened in 2002, Sept.
Spent a lot of time when I was younger working nights (oilfield) and bass fishing at night and frogging (for recreation) in the marsh (many miles away from civilization with no light pollution) and never saw anything even remotely suspicious.
My observation happened behind my house and the object was probably 6 to 10 miles away (just a guess) to the south east apparently over Chacahoula Swamp.
LOL at myself, those crazy aliens or the government messing around over a swamp again ;^)
1,101 posted on 10/20/2010 12:53:59 PM PDT by The Cajun
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To: Quix

Thanks for the link. We are on a trip now and not spending much time on line. I’ll look later.


1,102 posted on 10/20/2010 12:59:48 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: wolfcreek; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

NOTE TO LIST: WEBBOT UPDATE FROM FR’S OWN WEBBOT JOCKEY BELOW

IIRC,

it commonly varies from being immobalized for 15-30 min or so to being abducted for say 30 min to several hours worth and in some cases several days worth.


WEBBOT UPDATE:

The “Arctic/Mother/Warrior/Victory” concept thread came on the scene just before the string of Sarah Palin endorsed winners, so I had to assume that meant Sarah.

Hot linguistic values haven’t really changed since the “Election Fraud/Civil War” pair popped up in August. They include (with relative weights):
9.9 “Economic Holocaust”/”Real Estate Scam”
9.5 “Election Fraud/Civil War”
9.4 “Double Earthquake/Infrastructure/Destruction”
9.6 “Space Weirdness/Disclosure/Extraterrestrial/UFO”/Confusion/Fear
9.9 “Space Energy/Solar/Sun Spots”
...

The world is getting very, very weird.

Cheers,


WEBBOT JOCKEY—COULD YOU PLEASE give us some reference points for making sense out of the weights?

i.e. are the weights more intensity/dramatic/impact weights

or

more numbers of people contributing to such weights

or

soonness in time weights or what?

And, what are some examples of such weights of a predictive sort and their outcomes—maybe some that were right on and some that ended up being not very accurate at all even though they had say 9.9 weighting to begin with???


1,103 posted on 10/20/2010 4:35:10 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: wolfcreek; Quix
“How much missing time would you guesstimate at this point?”

I want to say there was at least a moment of not feeling totally aware of what was happening. Other than that....

I had a missing time incident once. Wife and I were returning home from a church function in the car, on a route that we took every day of the week. I had driven that way for so long, that I could nearly drive it in my sleep.

I see our exit coming up, and my body is already signaling and maneuvering the car onto the exit ramp. My wife is chatting about the event and mentions that we'll get home just in time for her favorite show. I'm listening, while watching the road.

As I ease down the off-ramp, I look around and notice that the landmarks are all wrong. It takes me a minute, but I finally figure out where we are. We're about eight miles west of our exit. The wife and I look at each other in stunned amazement. We can't figure out how we could have possibly wound up here, in what seemed like the blink of an eye.

I get us turned around and back on the freeway heading east, and notice the clock. It's about 15 minutes after the hour. Now, I know that we left the freeway at about a quarter 'til. We were on target to make it home in time before her show started.

This realization really makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Somehow, an entire half hour had elapsed between the time I entered "my" off-ramp, and when I got to the end of the "wrong" off-ramp.

I couldn't make sense of it, because even if we'd become so engrossed in conversation that I missed our ramp, it should have only taken 6 to 8 minutes for us to roll off the freeway 8 miles west.

Not only that - the section of freeway between our off-ramp and the ramp we got off on, rises steeply, and winds through miles of undeveloped hills. It then passes several off-ramps and landmarks that are totally familiar to my wife and I. We should have noticed immediately that we'd passed our exit.

Besides missing about a half hour of time, and 8 miles of space, my wife and I never experienced any other strangeness about this incident. No weird dreams, or anything like that.

1,104 posted on 10/20/2010 6:59:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

If you’ve had any CAT scans or MRI’s since then, I’d inspect them with a fine toothed comb.

Very interesting.


1,105 posted on 10/20/2010 8:46:26 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
If you’ve had any CAT scans or MRI’s since then, I’d inspect them with a fine toothed comb.

I know where you're going with that, but no, I haven't had anything stronger than a dental X-ray since then.

One curious thing, though, is that I fall asleep on UFO programs like magic. I've always loved watching shows about UFOs, but I haven't been able to get through one in years and years. I finally gave up trying.

It even happens during daylight hours. I can last maybe 20 minutes, and then I'm gone. Out like a light.

I was sitting here trying to remember when that started, and I'm pretty sure it was after my missing time incident (though I'm not necessarily trying to connect it to that).

1,106 posted on 10/20/2010 9:17:14 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

That phenomenon is often correlated with demonic activity.

Many find it in church services or when the Bible is being read.

I haven’t read of it clearly associated with implants more than maybe 2-3 times and it was uncertain then.

Certainly it is plausible.

It would be good to perform an experiment with someone around to help monitor etc.

Have a sci fi movie not about such and one that was about such or maybe 3 of each and see how you did at a time you’d normally be wide awake. If there’s a clear difference, might be worth checking out.

Any scoop marks or other unexpected marks on your skin after the incident???

God be with you Bro.

I assume you haven’t dabbled in any occult stuff including horoscopes???

What about your ancestors?


1,107 posted on 10/20/2010 10:18:33 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
It would be good to perform an experiment with someone around to help monitor etc.

Not necessary. My wife of fifteen years will tell you that this phenomenon only occurs when I watch UFO programs. I can watch Sci-Fi, historical documentaries, dramas, discussion panels, you name it. I'm fully tuned in, and will watch til the end. Let it be a UFO show, and I'm off to dreamland.

Any scoop marks or other unexpected marks on your skin after the incident?

Not that I noticed, but I can't say that I looked for any, either. For years, I had a small object of some type in the web of my left hand (between thumb and forefinger), but I just checked, and it seems to have disappeared.

I assume you haven’t dabbled in any occult stuff ... ancestors?

No, I've never dabbled in the occult. I have no earthly idea what any of my ancestors might have "dabbled" in during their lifetimes, but I highly doubt that any of them ever had the slightest interest in such things (knowing my family history).

I've had loads of other unusual experiences in my life. Some, more hair-raising than this one.

1,108 posted on 10/20/2010 10:46:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

“No weird dreams, or anything like that.”

I’ve had strange dreams (flying, disasters, monsters, etc.) most of my life. Not sure I could distinguish between the different ones but, I don’t recall any *abduction* type dreams.


1,109 posted on 10/21/2010 4:42:03 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Quix

Thanks!. (I figured you might have insight) 8~)

If it were just a few minutes, it would be very hard to discern.


1,110 posted on 10/21/2010 4:48:10 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Windflier

What happens if spouse tries waking you up every 5 min?

This is a strange idea . . . still . . . were it me . . . I might afix some relatively strong permanent magnets to a hat and wear them and see if the same effect was still there.

Also, were you a strong, authentic Christian at the time of the incident.

It may also be that this sphere is not your brief—not something Holy Spirit wants you involved with. It is conceivable HE is putting you to sleep.

However, it sounds to me, more, like it MAY be some implant or other external influence.


1,111 posted on 10/21/2010 8:02:55 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: wolfcreek
I don’t recall any *abduction* type dreams.

I haven't had any of those, either.

I honestly have no explanation for the missing time I experienced. At the time of the incident, I was (of course) anxious about it, and very "answer hungry". I was familiar with the standard ET explanation, but my logical mind wouldn't accept that, because there was no evidence for it.

About the best I could manage with my powers of reason stretched to the breaking point, was that I'd somehow encountered a time/space warp of some sort. I really wanted to find a natural (even if unexplained) answer for what occurred.

That's pretty much where I left that mystery.

1,112 posted on 10/21/2010 9:05:25 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Quix

Stalker ping.


1,113 posted on 10/21/2010 8:56:25 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Jim Robinson

:)


1,114 posted on 10/21/2010 9:03:32 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Quix
You laugh at the owner of the forum and picture him in his wheelchair with an anal prob and wonder if the communists have got to him.
1,115 posted on 10/21/2010 9:10:21 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima; Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; Mad Dawg; Legatus; Amityschild; AngieGal; ...
I'm mystified by your bearing such a hideous type and degree of false witness.

I have NOT pictured JimRob remotely like that.

I'm pretty visually imaginative and I don't picture ANYONE like that. It's, by all accounts a very hideous experience I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy--much less someone I love as much as I do JimRob.

I have met Jim face to face. I had a lot of affection toward him before I met him and a lot more afterwards.

I know what Jim looks like in his wheel chair. I wouldn't want the critters within a 100 miles of him!

Yes, I know he has a hard time with much of my perspective and long studied conclusions about globalism/ communism/ socialism--though he has evidently realized more and more of the loathesome encroachments they have made on our beloved Constitution and toward destroying our Republic.

He may even have become more aware that these leaders over the last 110 years were and are quite serious about forcing globalism/ communism/ socialism on the world just as the Bible predicted:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2475963/posts?page=60#60

I know that either on his own or convinced by others who are extremely derisive of my conclusions from 45+ years of the UFO/ET phenomena that he also has a hard time with my understanding and conclusions about that.

Some have evidently convinced him (VERY FALSELY) at various times that I was deliberately trying to harm FR's reputation by such discussions.

However, Jim has NOT had a relative work around the craft as I have. Jim has evidently NOT read the Biblically mentioned Book of Enoch as Alamo-Girl has and a number of us are doing. Jim has NOT met face to face with 60-80% of the highest quality UFO researchers on 3 continents, as I have.

Jim is occasionally given to somewhat jokingly jibing me about the topic as he did recently--suggesting that I'd been abducted one too many times. One of my cohorts, who also studies the topic, jibed back at Jim.

NONE OF THAT CONSTITUTED ANYTHING CLOSE TO YOUR FALSE ACCUSATION.

It is one thing for you to deny very scientific and extensive literary and investigative research clearly indicating that Fatima was a very UFO involved--somewhat typical--UFO involved series of events.

It's another thing to falsely accuse a fellow FREEPER of something as hideous as you accused me of.

Your "Stalker ping." was also a totally false accusation.

May God forgive you for such viciousness.

I forgive you.

I do pray that God shows you quite vividly the error of your ways.

If any of the folks on the UFO or END TIMES lists agree with you in the slightest, I hope they speak up.

If they disagree, I hope they speak up.

Let the chips fall where they may.

1,116 posted on 10/22/2010 1:53:01 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks for all of your research and posting...


1,117 posted on 10/22/2010 2:58:33 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (To anger a Conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a Liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Thanks for your kind reply.

Here’s some interesting items . . .

Russian antigravity research scientist published in peer reviewed journals . . . reproducable experimental results videos:

http://www.therealworld.no/


1,118 posted on 10/22/2010 3:13:49 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: fatima

Hideous accusation.

Please post evidence that Quix EVER posted anything of the sort, on which your accusation is based.


1,119 posted on 10/22/2010 3:18:16 AM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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To: Quix
"I very much wish that you were correct about the Vatican."

Quix, "The Pope," and "The Vatican" are two different entities, though obviously some overlap is unavoidable, just like "Obama" and "The Government" are two different entities.

THIS pope's a cool dude. The one coming after him though will be a bad guy. This was prophecied around 150 years ago or so.

1,120 posted on 10/22/2010 3:45:29 AM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
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