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To: LearnsFromMistakes

“Cult busters” are just members of other cults. There are clearly identifiable Mac, MS, and ‘Nix cults on FR; and they turn tech threads into flame wars attacking each other and anybody they think might be in one of the other cults.

I think he’s funny. He’s very addicted to a world view where Apple is a victim of evil pressers spreading “FUD” when reality is Apple is a company like any other, and they do good things and bad things like any other, and people can point out the things Apple has screwed up without it being FUD. His threads cause angst because that’s what he wants, he constantly throws insults, and then whines that it’s the other cults. It’s all part of that persecution complex.


178 posted on 09/26/2010 9:17:19 PM PDT by discostu (Keyser Soze lives)
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To: discostu; LearnsFromMistakes; antiRepublicrat; RachelFaith
I think he’s funny. He’s very addicted to a world view where Apple is a victim of evil pressers spreading “FUD” when reality is Apple is a company like any other, and they do good things and bad things like any other, and people can point out the things Apple has screwed up without it being FUD. His threads cause angst because that’s what he wants, he constantly throws insults, and then whines that it’s the other cults. It’s all part of that persecution complex.

LOL! I think you are hilarious, psychoanalyzing me based on my opinions of negative articles about Apple that are validated by subsequent events. . . in this case, the total LACK of antenna issues in every other market where the iPhone has been released. In fact, the press in those newer markets wrote numerous articles about the "American iPhone whiners" and how the local buyers could not duplicate the antenna or dropped call issues, no matter how hard they tried. It's really amazing how that "problem" seemed to disappear once the paid flacks who were generating reams of press releases stopped sending them out because the iPhone4 USERS started telling their friends they weren't experiencing the problems the news was claiming "everyone" was experiencing. How many friends telling you it's a bogus problem does it take before you start disbelieving the flacks, and trusting the word of your friends???

Apple even found a far less than expected number of iPhone 4 owners taking advantage of the FREE case or bumper program designed to solve the hyped antenna "problem". . . and has announced it's discontinuation except for their own bumpers due to lack of interest. If it was SUCH a problem, why weren't more iPhone 4 owners taking advantage of a free $20 to $30 case, or reimbursement for the one they bought already to solve their antenna problem.

You claim I "constantly throw insults" and whine—I think you would be hard pressed to show that to be true—yet here you are throwing insulting terms like "cultists" and making accusations about my motives in "polite terms" that are just as insulting as some of the vile words that have been thrown around. Just because they are said with a smile and are "politically correct" jargon terms used by the psychiatric community does not make them any less an ad hominem attack intended to minimize the person you direct them toward, me. This is not an acceptable form for discussion. . . nor is it likely to get agreement with your position in the discussion. You did not even have the common courtesy to ping me to a discussion where you malign my motives for posting these articles.

I appreciate LearnsFromMistakes' efforts to defend me.

If you think an article I post, or ping the list to, that I claim is FUD, is not, say so and give your reasons. Discuss why it's true. I'll post my reasons I think it's FUD, and link to evidence, if I have it.

The article in question was roundly criticized in other venues as well for the same reasons I criticized it. . . poor use of statistics, false representations, and unreasonable conclusions as well as false, incomparable data. I posted WHY I thought it was FUD. I always explain why I think something is FUD, usually with links to the evidence proving it to be so. His claims comparing the iPhone antenna to the Toyota acceleration issue was totally bogus. . . and I stated so. The NHTSA found on examining the "black box" records of the cars involved in the incidents that all but one involved driver error, thus invalidating one of his statistical talking points. Another was his argument that phone users call the service provider and argued that there had to be a lot more calls that Apple never got about the antenna problem that AT&T handled and imputed and used those statistics. . . but those statistics don't apply to the iPhones because as soon as AT&T gets a 611 trouble call from an iPhone, it's routed directly to Apple customer service, not AT&T. AGAIN, invalidating one of the blogger's major talking points. . . a point that he should have known had he bothered to do any due diligence before publishing. EVERY point he raised in the blog has similar problems. That's why I labeled it FUD.

179 posted on 09/26/2010 11:52:33 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone!)
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To: discostu
people can point out the things Apple has screwed up without it being FUD

I completely agree. But most of the time, they don't - gotta get their digs in. Like todays news about the 'U.S. Wants Broader Internet Wiretap Authority'. Their bias is quite clear, because is used to be 'the Bush administration'. Noting the bias doesn't change the underlying issue.

182 posted on 09/27/2010 8:42:57 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (Yes, I am happy to see you. But that IS a gun in my pocket.)
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