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To: NautiNurse; GonzoII; AFreeBird; pepsionice; driftdiver; Concho
nuke the area

Lemme take a wild guess. You live in either Wisconsin or Michigan.

Let's not panic. Nukes are not as dangerous as you think.

Don't forget, more than 1000 nukes were set off just 65 miles outside of Las Vegas and people lived there the whole time.
Nowadays, nukes can be 'tuned' to produce lower amounts of radiation and more blast/heat - sort of the opposite of a neutron bomb which produces searing radiation and little blast. Set off just above the hole or near the top, NOT deep inside of it it will ostensibly fuse the rock and seal it...or not.

People have been fooled by the paranoid left about nukes. They say that if India and Pakistan went to war with nukes it would be the end of the world. You should laugh when you hear this and remind them of the 1000 MUCH BIGGER nukes that the USA set off just outside of Vegas. People used to watch the blasts from their hotel rooms.

According to the left-wing environutjobs, Las Vegas should be uninhabitable for the next 1000 years. I was just there and I'm fine.

Deepwater Horizon is approximately 50 miles offshore and far underwater. A nuke can safely be detonated there... but would it work?

24 posted on 06/26/2010 4:37:39 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots

“Let’s not panic. Nukes are not as dangerous as you think.”

Its not the radiation that makes this a stupid idea. Its the fact that the seafloor is relatively soft and unstable.

It won’t “fuse” the rock, it will make lots of little rocks. Making a gazillion new pathways for the oil to escape.


30 posted on 06/26/2010 4:49:20 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Bon mots

Interesting info. I think the great fear as indicted in the video is how the solidity if the seabed would weather a nuclear blast.


31 posted on 06/26/2010 4:51:11 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: Bon mots

No. A nuke is detonated away from the well and the sea floor shifts to fill the hole.

The sea floor here is not the same as the Russian sea floor and the people at the “Oil Drum” site (the experts) say it won’t work. In fact, with the kind of sea floor we have, it would make matters worse.


47 posted on 06/26/2010 5:11:32 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Bon mots

Nukes are not dangerous?

Dude, ten people in my famiy have cancer in a family with no cancer for generations. We all were growing up during the atmospheric testing back in the fifties. We all drank milk at a time when str 90 was circling the globe.

Come back and tell me that after your family has gone through this. I don’t know the mechanism but I know our gene pool was changed. I know this didn’t come out of the blue.


64 posted on 06/26/2010 5:37:44 AM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Bon mots
Nowadays, nukes can be 'tuned' to produce lower amounts of radiation and more blast/heat

This isn't an episode of MacGyver.

Do you know how long it takes for a pot-hole to get filled? And there are allegedly dedicated teams of people paid to do just that sort of thing, and the level to staff that team isn't hard to find.

Let's say that you are the one with the bumper sticker that reads "There is no problem large enough that it can'be be fixed with high explosives." and because this is a large problem you want to use a large explosive. That is the core of your reason for doing this.

So miracle happen. First the Kenyan Post Turtle somehow cares to "Plug the Damn Hole". Since this is a dicatatorship now, that pretty much is the only executive obstacle. Then you get tasked with making this so.

Who are you going to call? Who do know has this kind of expertise, that is the ability to "tune" the nuke specifically for this environment and task? Do you think that Lockheed has an excel spreadsheet or a CAD template laying around that, only after punching in a few parameters will kick out a design? Do you think that they will do this without modeling it? Do you know how many years it takes just to design the model? And how long it takes just to get the data to feed, design and test the model?

What company do you know of out there, routinely futzes around with nuclear warheads, such where they can just pull down some parts and after Ol'Jimmy down in the shop mills out a couple parts, they can get that thing good-to-go in no time.

We are talking about a thermo-nuclear device. This isn't a case of thumbing through the yellow pages and negotiating a price and time you can get this service done. Who has access to these things? Do you really think that there are knobs and switches on the side of a nicely packaged microwave oven looking consumer friendly device where one just punches in the equivalent of "Popcorn" and then lobs the thing overboard into the ocean where it will simply do the trick like a Mission Impossible scene?

Who has the expertise in both deep sea geology and thermonuclear "tuning" ? And intuitively knows the hidden peculiarities of both the GOM and the off-the-shelf thermonuclear warhead. You want them to design this from scratch? If it was so easy, why doesn't everyone have one?

Do you think that we have stockpiles of these devices laying around that are designed to withstand the huge amount of pressure of ocean water, then jammed down a pipe for over mile, and somehow still detonate? Did the Soviets, in those Propaganda films have that sort of thing?

Seriously, even if one could staff a team of people with passing acquaintence to the task at hand, is this something that they could whip out over the weekend? Remember the pot-hole reference. All one needs is an illegal alien, a truck, a shovel and some asphalt, and that takes months to get taken care of. We need a specially "tuned" bomb that can handle the water pressure and being jammed down over a mile into the seafloor. We need a delivery system (this isn't exactly FedEx or even Haliburton's specialty), then we need a real damned good excuse in hand when the sea floor opens with hundreds of fissures spead over a large area, all spewing forth oil.

We can't even build a skyscraper that was knocked down nearly a decade ago, and the world has thousands upon thousands of people who have direct experience in designing and constructing office buildings.

Where in the world would you find, assemble, direct and manage a team that could come up with the perfect solution, construct a device that uses technology made to rapidly destroy cities, in a marine environment that even BP or the government doesn't even understands. Remember, whoever gets this project is surely corrupt and is somehow connected to this Chicago or this regime so they can make billions of profit from it. And what happens when everything goes to Hell, who is going to eat the blame? Anyone who has been awake for the past couple years should know by now that this regime accepts no blame for anything, and ALWAYS has a scapegoat and will demonize that party right out of business. I don't know how exactly they can pin a thermonuclear FUBAR event on George Bush. And I have no idea how or why anyone would bid this project. Do you know how many months it takes just to write a government proposal? Can you imagine the bid process?

Really, this isn't Hollywood. Let the oil experts, the real ones, not the imaginary ones, do that which is all we have the marginal technology to do - drill relief wells.

92 posted on 06/26/2010 6:29:01 AM PDT by The Theophilus
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To: Bon mots

“According to the left-wing environutjobs, Las Vegas should be uninhabitable for the next 1000 years. I was just there and I’m fine. “

You do realize why they stopped open air testing of the nukes?

Because the bomb pieces end up in the upper atmosphere and circle the world. We all have itty bitty pieces of those bombs in our bodies, mostly our bones which absorb the cesium.


125 posted on 06/26/2010 6:39:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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