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Hussein - vs - Kwame. President Barack Obama 's Kenyan birth certificate.
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| June 8th, 2010
| Lucas Smith (InspectorSmith)
Posted on 06/08/2010 6:00:21 PM PDT by InspectorSmith
"Some skeptics have called into question the name of the "Supervisor of Obstetrics" listed on the British Protectorate of Kenya, Mombasa, hospital birth certificate of President Barack Hussien Obama II.
"The name listed in "John Kwame Odongo". Many skeptics (all of which lack any first hand knowledge of Africa or East Africa) have questioned the name "Kwame". The skeptics claim that a Kenya would never give their son a "Ghanaian" name such as "Kwame".
"I (Lucas Smith) have in the past delivered several explanations of the name "John Kwame Odongo". My explanations in the past more than sufficed in squashing wild claims that no Kenya would be allowed such a name.
"Now, through recent investigation, I present an even greater piece of evidence that has been in right in front of our noses as early as January, 2010 (and really for many many many years)..............
"This piece of evidence comes from US President Barack Hussein Obama's half brother in Kenya, "George Hussein Obama", in his 2010 published book, "Homeland: An Extraordinary Story of Hope and Survival".
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: barackobamakenya; birthcertificate; britishimperialism; certifigate; conartistsmith; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: InspectorSmith; Seizethecarp
The skeptics claimed that no Kenyan would ... give there son a name from Ghana. They claimed that tribes in Kenya would never do such a thing. I, Lucas Smith, gave several different explanations that would fit the scenario. IN ABSOLUTELY NO CASE IS THE NAME IMPOSSIBLE.
I absolutely agree! CONGRATULATIONS ON SOME VERY PERCEPTIVE AND IMPORTANT RESEARCH HELPING AUTHENTICATE THE CPGH BC YOU OBTAINED IN FEBRUARY 2009 FOR BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!
When I read your original post here on the topic, referencing the unusual Kenyan name Hussein, it inspired me to investigate the matter in greater detail. I am pleased to report that I found the following link, which shows use of the name Kwame by a man born in Kenya! His name is John Mark Kwame Atinga and a snip from his profile is reproduced below.
http://www.nabuur.com/en/user/intergelorg/profile
John Mark Kwame Atinga
Village / City:
Kisumu (Kajulu), Kenya
My motivation:
"My interest is to share my skills with other Nabuur Neighbours to find solution to some life challenges. Not all these challenges are common and hence vary from one region to the next. Through a common sharing with others solutions are easily found.
More about myself:
"Occupation: Social Worker Biography: I was brought up in a family of six children (a brother and four sisters) in Siaya District at some historic region called Got Ramogi in Siaya District. The place anchors itself on Lake Victoria Basin- Western Kenya. It was the first settlement site of the Luo Community who are River Lake Nilotes in Kenya from Juba- Southern Sudan. Our family later moved to Kisumu where my father transfered to anew school. He was a teacher but has since retired from public service four years ago. I completed my Primary Education in 1985 and joined a High School. I sat for the Kenya Certificate of Secondary Education in 1989 and later joined the public service in temporary jobs with Government Research Institutions.
MY CONCLUSION IS THAT A NAME, SUCH AS THAT OF JOHN KWAME ODONGO, THE CHIEF OF OBSTETRICS LISTED ON THE CPGH BC, COULD CERTAINLY BE POSSESSED BY AN INDIVIDUAL WORKING IN MOMBASA, KENYA.
btw In case you have not already figured it out, "WhizCodger" (thats me) is one and the same as "bsteadman1", who posts regularly on your InspectorSmith forum! I plan on posting the above information regarding John Mark KWAME Atinga very shortly on that forum as well!
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posted on
06/09/2010 10:54:37 AM PDT
by
WhizCodger
(Katie - Bar the door, then text my reply of "F U" to the NWO!)
To: InspectorSmith
Thanks for the info.
Keep up the good work!
To: Genoa
Check lucysmom’s posting history and you’ll know everything you need to know about her.
Asking her for info is like emailing Rahm Emmanuel for info.
To: little jeremiah; InspectorSmith
Leftist on every issue, absolutely. AND transparent and irritating. The same tired old carp over and over.
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posted on
06/09/2010 11:05:54 AM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
To: little jeremiah
I spend less and less time on FR. I’m tired of the trolls. They are like gophers. You smack one down here and two pop up over there.
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posted on
06/09/2010 11:09:49 AM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
To: Seizethecarp; InspectorSmith; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; ...
"... wonder who out there (Interpol, intelligence services) might know to whom that fingerprint belongs.
Pinging back to the thread. - SP's buzzing around, indicating InspectorSmith's investigation is on the right track.
Check out comments since yesterday...
[Thanks Seizethecarp, and InspectorSmith.]
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posted on
06/09/2010 11:23:35 AM PDT
by
LucyT
To: Seizethecarp
For Rent: Obama’s College Apartment
Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:06:14 PM · 45 of 102
Genoa to The Sons of Liberty
The face on the boyfriend is a photoshop of a terrorist. His roommate was a pretty white boy.
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posted on
06/09/2010 11:23:36 AM PDT
by
mojitojoe
(banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
To: InspectorSmith
Dude,
For crying out loud.
Supply high-def scans and all your paperwork to Beck's people.
Let people who do this for a living get busy on it. You're taking too long and making way too many mistakes causing delay.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
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posted on
06/09/2010 11:27:16 AM PDT
by
The Comedian
(Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
To: The Comedian; InspectorSmith
I agree. Do the same with Trevor Loudon.
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posted on
06/09/2010 11:33:24 AM PDT
by
mojitojoe
(banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
To: DJ MacWoW
I took some time off and am the better for it. I just couldn’t take it for a while - this topic, plus the ping list topics.
I am very busy with stuff but when I ping the lists then I feel that I am doing what little I can for the truth and that is satisfying.
I hope you and your plants are all well!! (I can’t grow anything. No sunlight. Even my peppermint died!!!!)
To: DJ MacWoW
And snarky, and bad tempered. Trolls/leftists cannot be happy, their consciences won’t let them.
To: lucysmom; Genoa
Yes, it has been debunked. No it is not.
The chief administrator supposedly signing the BC did not hold the position at the time the BC was produced, and his name is misspelled.
Dr Helton Maganga highly likely worked in the same capacity as Chief Administrator IF he was not the main administrator at the time.
To: little jeremiah
I have some shade plants, rhododendrons and bleeding hearts. Roses are well. But it’s rainy today so I’m achy.
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posted on
06/09/2010 11:40:21 AM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
To: little jeremiah
And they hate anyone that disagrees with them.
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posted on
06/09/2010 11:41:35 AM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
To: lucysmom
The COLB?
Kenyan official: Obama born here, not even a native American.
During debate over the draft of a new Kenyan constitution, James Orengo, the country’s minister of lands and a member of parliament for the Ugenya constituency, cited America’s election of a Kenyan-born president as an example of what can be accomplished when diverse peoples unite:
The Kenyan lawmaker told the nation’s parliament last month that Barack Obama was born in Africa and is therefore “not even a native American.”
The full quote; “If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America? It is because they did away with exclusion. What has killed us here is exclusion; that once Mr. Orengo is President, I know of no other place than Ugenya. That is why we were fighting against these many Presidencies in the past. I hope that Kenya will come of age. This country must come of age. People want freedom and nations want liberation, but countries want independence.”
http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/downloads/tenth_forth_sess/Hansard/RDRAFT25.03P.pdf
UPDATE: The Kenyan Government is scrubbing this document. I have uploaded it here LINK
The statement is on page 31 of the PDF document. Also when did the United States do away with exclusion? What exclusion? The Natural Born Citizen clause? When was this done?
So who is James Orengo?
James Orengo, (James Jimmy-Jimmy Owadgi Adhiambo Orengo) is a lawyer and former presidential candidate in Kenya. Orengo has since been sworn in as a Minister for Lands in the new Coalition Government formed by the National Accord Act of 2008. As of 2007 he is still the SDP chairman. The party supported Raila Odinga of Orange Democratic Movement at the 2007 general elections. Raila Odinga is the first cousin of Barack Obama.
Additional information and previous posts of Kenyan officials stating Obama is Kenyan
Kenyan Parliament says Obama is Kenyan after the 2008 election
Kenyan Historian says Obama is Kenyan
Michelle Obama syas Kenya is Obama’s ‘HOME COUNTRY’
Prove it to yourself So easy ANYONE can do it (down about 40 percent of the page linked here)
Posted on December 2, 2009 by nobarack08
So easy ANYONE can do it
For over 15 months I have been stating that the Obama COLB posted on Fight the Smears and FactCheck are forgeries. The Obama supporters have attempted to ridicule and misrepresent the facts, of those who question the validity of a single document, the Certification of Live Birth posted on Fight the Smears and FactCheck.
Here lies the challenge to everyone that wants to see for themselves, by their own hand evidence of document forgery.
Here are the files that you will need, please note that these image are HIGH Resolution images with the exception of the FTS one, all the others are large images.
COLB #2 without SEAL
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg
size 2304 x 3072
Date Signature
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_9.jpg
size 3072 x 2304
Raised seal
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_1.jpg
size 2304 x 3072
Veritcal #3 with SEAL
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg
2304 x 3072
COLB #3 in its side
http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg
size 3072 x 2304
FTS
http://www.fightthesmears.com/images/28.jpg
size 585 x 575
DailyKos
http://palabre.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/bo_birth_certificate-kos.jpg
size 2427 x 2369
All you need to do is the following;
- Download the files and save to your hard drive.
- Browse to the folder that you saved the files to.
- Right click on the file and in the menu select Open with and choose Paint
- This will open the selected file in Microsoft Paint.
- You dont have to resize the image, as it would be better if you viewed if full size.
- With the image opened, you have 2 options. Go to the Menu bar and select Image and then Invert colors or use the Ctrl + I keys.
- Save that file as xxxxInv, where xxx is the original file name and INV stands for Inverted.
- Now compare the images.
- Note the following;
- 28.jpg has no SEAL applied to it
- birth_certificate_1.jpg shows CLEAR indications of an embossed SEAL.
- birth_certificate_2.jpg shows CLEAR indications of an embossed SEAL.
- birth_certificate_3.jpg shows NO indications of an any line breakage and paper perforation by anything let alone an embossed SEAL.
- birth_certificate_5.jpg shows CLEAR indications of an embossed SEAL.
- birth_certificate_9.jpg is the
- bo_birth_certificate-kos.jpg shows NO indications of an any line breakage and paper perforation by anything let alone an embossed SEAL.
There you have your evidence, three different COLB posted. Using only your operating system, and a very simple graphics program with nothing else you have been able see with your own eyes the evidence of document forgery. Without having to adjust the brightness or contrast, hue and saturation, you can plainly see the evidence. How can indentations and perforations be clearly seen on one image and totally absent the next?
Filed under: Barack, Politics, illegal alien | Tagged: Barack, Forgery, Obama | 6 Comments »
Posted on December 8, 2009 by nobarack08
In an ongoing effort to educate those about the COLB fogery. I have been holding some cards back. Now it’s time to ”Cry Havoc! And slip the dogs of war”.
There are those that claim, that the COLB off “FTS’ Fight the Smears is scanned and therefore defects and other items are not going to be picked up. Or that the high resolution images off FactCheck are just as deceptive. Well lets take a look at these. First off the image off The DailyKos is (w) 2427 x (h) 2369 to compare this to the average users desktop which currently is (w) 1280 x (h) 1024 – hence this document the DailyKos posted is over two (2) times the size, the even higher resolution images off FactCheck come in at a whopping (w) 2304 x (h) 3072 or close to three (3) times the size of the standard desktop resolution, some of the FactCheck images are rotated to the side and therefore some are (w) 3072 x (h) 2304 respectfully.
There is a filter that can be applied to digital images called Statistical Image Enhancement [We will refer to this as SEI]. Which is defined as ‘The present invention relates to image enhancement by exploiting statistical properties of reference images. In particular, images may be sharpened by reconstructing missing frequency components in accordance with statistical constraints that are determined from higher order statistical properties of a reference image that corresponds to the difference of the original image and a lowpass filtered version thereof. This form of statistical image enhancement may also be applied to image and video coding in order to achieve superior image qualities at higher compression gains by transmitting statistical properties of the coding error together with the encoded images.’
Digital enhancement is routinely done in the field of astronomy. With the advent of CCD imaging, and software that allows even the basic amateur astronomers, to capture and enhance images caputred in with the basic of telescopes. Go to the Meade Telescope web-site and browse through the gallery section, or a simple google search of the same. Here is a good resource, http://www.willbell.com/aip/index.htm
Now this leads us to the images posted on the internet refered to the the previous “Prove it to yourself So easy ANYONE can do it” Some comments that I recieved complained that MS Paints is to basic a program, that is the point, without any special software, it is possible to detect the forgery. Now let’s move on to further establish the forgery is self-evident.
There is a nifty freeware program called ‘Image Analyzer’. This program will be a treat for most computer users as it can manipulate pictures from the net or digital cameras.
Now we are going to take the next stair up the forgery staircase. If you have downloaded and kept the images off the original “Prove it to yourself So easy ANYONE can do it” you can use the same ones for this exercise. Off my blog are some additional images. Download the following images. The Decosta Birth Certificate, The Tomoyasu Birth Certificate, The Covered 1990 Certificate, The Edith Rear images. Then after installing Image Analyzer, open the individual images and then go to the menu bar and select the ‘Operations’ – ‘Color Correction’ – ‘Statistical image enhancement…’ option, a pop-up will appear with the mathematical equation and the default entry of 0.5. You can change this or keep it and then click on ‘OK’, at this point the process will begin and depending on the size of the image, your compter’s processing power it might be a few seconds to even a minute.
Notice that in the above images and the original ones in the previous exercise, you can clearly see the indications of the SEAL being applied to the certificates and certifications with the exceptions of FactCheck #2. WHY? Is this not supposed to be the same document as the DailyKos document (which again, HAS NO SEAL, but that was apparently scanned), or ‘FTS’ Fight the Smears (again another scanned image that has no SEAL), or the FactCheck #3 that clearly shows an embossed SEAL (but not the type defined by the State of Hawaii), so how does FactCheck #2 account for it’s existence?
Here is an original Hawaiian Certification and the SEI version;
Even this one that is NOT scanned shows evidence of the embossed SEAL.
So why doesn’t the following images show any evidence of an embossed SEAL?
FTS – Fight The Smears
The DailyKos supposed scanned imaged [resized from the original]
Or FactCheck #2
So in reality we are not talking about ONE image or document that does not contain the SEAL, we are talking about the DailyKos image that was posted in mid-June 2008 [that is a high resolution image], the FTS image posted in Aug 2008 and the FactCheck # 2 document [another high resolution] image posted after that. Now, just to be fair, here is the FactCheck #3 that does show embossing of a non-State of Hawaii issued SEAL applied. [Image resized, and area enlarged to see embossing visible]
Now I would like to remind you what the State of Hawaii has stated.
The SEAL is applied by machine and there is lettering, that lettering being “Department of Health” and “State of Hawaii”. So how does the Seal disappear and reappear and disappear off the same document?
Part 3 will also explore another aspect of digital enhancement.
“Cry Havoc! And slip the dogs of war”.
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Posted on December 13, 2009 by nobarack08
In the first and second part of this series, we have looked at the forged COLB as presented and shown the irregularities between an actual one issued by the State of Hawaii and the ones presented by TheDailyKos, Fight the Smears [FTS], and FactCheck. Now for the blank template itself and the simple question. How or why would a blank ‘Certification of Live Birth’ be showing any indications of a SEAL present on it. Here is the original Blank Hawaiian template that has been circulating on the internet. Notice that the blanked out certificate number is identical to the one posted on FTS. The process for the issuance of a Birth Certificare or Certification of Live Birth, is that the data is printed out on via a printer, the information checked and verified and then a Seal from the issuing authority and signiture is applied. So the question remains, how does a blank certification of live birth exist with anomolies exist. Here is a Hawaiian Blank Template with filters applied to bring out the anomolies in the area where an embossed seal is normally applied and the date stamp. Note this is also the same date that appears on the Obama COLB. Here is the Hawaiian Blank COLB. Note that the Certificate number is blacked out and the date stamp is visible Jun 6 2007. I recieved several comments that asked me to post the Hawaiian Blank template.
Here are three different images showing the anomalies in the area that a SEAL would be applied. All on the blank template.
Now we look at an what an Obama supporter claims as false representation on the FactCheck image.
To quote his lies; “Now a real expert, or even just a person of reasonable common sense, would chalk this up to factors like how the photo isn’t in focus, making it difficult to see a pressure seal, or how it might be obscured somewhat by the shadow. Here, for instance, is how one portion of this JPEG looks, without any modification”
The is attempting to take a portion, at the furthest point of the image and state that, ‘that area represents the entire image’. Here is another image of the FactCheck forged document.
Here is the comparison in relation to his section.
An Obot lawyer, who is too stupid and arrogant to realize that the image above, has been resized, by this blog hosting. Has decided to post a comparison image. The image below demonstrates that the FactCheck people used to verify the COLB were not only inexperienced, but were deceptive as well. They were not qualified to even photograph the document and took every effort to decieve anyone looking at it, just like the questionalbe lawyer. Regardless of the level of focus that the deranged lawyer is pawning, there are no defects from the embossing that are visible in other images. Since he can’t explain that away, he’s throwing a temper tantrum.
UPDATE 12/24/2009 As I have posted a new post today I am inserting the origional image that was to go here. Here is the one that I changed from to keep the Obot’s off-guard. The original was to have stated ‘Some degree of being in focus’ and an cropped section showing that even the date was visible.
Now even with the image above, there is no indication of anything in the area where there should be.
Now here is where is mis-representing the facts. He is openly pawning the DailyKos image as proof that there is a seal and that makes it legit. Now to destroy all myths about the Obama COLB being a legitimate State issued Certification of Live Birth.
Here is an inverted image of the DailyKos COLB. There are defects that indicate in the area [region] of where a seal should be that there are something a miss. He attempted to use ‘Edge Detection’ as a means of bringing out the edges of the breakage from the embossing. I will his own image and prove him wrong. Here is the image that he has posted ‘claiming that a seal is present.’ Note the indications of a supposed seal and date stamp with the first four images above, they are identical.
The original sixe of the DailyKos image was 2427 x 2369 – 16 million colors, over 17 megs in size.
The silver stake in the forgery that we are gong to expose is that the ‘Date Stamp’ is actually a layer superimposed on the image and is not actuall a stamp as indicated by the State of Hawaii.
Here is a crop of the image posted on the debuker’s web-site.
Notice the lines under the date stamp [here the date is reversed, as the stamp is supposed to be applied to the back of the document.] There is no indication that any of the lines under the date stamp have been altered by the application of the stamp. Now let’s look the same area on the Hawaiian Blank template. Also note that where there is supposed to be an ‘embossed seal’ shows the same anomolies as in the Blank Hawaiian Template also.
Lets invert the DailyKos crop again and see the entire crop area.
Now for a close-up of just the ‘Date Stamp’ area
Now compare the above to the Obama COLB Date Stamp region [below] and see if you can see any line breakage from a stamp being applied to the document. Notice the ‘bleed-through’ of the date stamp being aver-layed on top of the image versus being applied to the back.
The Date Stamp was applied as a layer to the Blank Hawaiian Template and they used that image to create the Barack Obama DailyKos COLB, that image was used again on Fight the Smears ‘FTS’ website.
As even State of Hawaii’s Department of Health, Director of Communications Janice Okubo, stated “I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.”
The same anomolies and marking across the ‘Blank Hawaiian Template’, The DailyKos image, indicating that the same image was used to create them. That the indications that they claim are an embossed seal and date stamp are nothing more then a layer applied to the image to make it appear that it was real.
There has been no proof that the signiture that FactCheck posted was even on the Obama COLB. Bottom line, the Blank Hawaiian template was used to create the DailyKos image and that it was never issued by the State of Hawaii. The FactCheck forgery used a non-State of Hawaii SEAL as indicated by the following e-mail.
You want to see the "REAL" "CERTIFICATE OF BIRTH"?
Just click on them for the source information.
Didn't our Heavenly Father, through our Savior tell us...
" thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother."
How well we deserve this curse (~so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things~) God has given us,
through the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF, the FASCIST Obama.
Someone once ask, "When is violence for political purposes justified?"...
Thomas Jefferson once said that, "When the government fears the people, there is liberty.
When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
So, in light of the minor outbreaks of violence we've been seeing lately, I ask We have a second amendment to help protect us from the government, when is it acceptable to take up arms?
At what point does violence become the correct response?
I recommend the following for your valuable time, to ponder... (all 37 pages)
Violence, Nonviolence, and the American Revolution
All things written in the Bible must come to pass,
and we WILL get to the day worse than has ever been.
And this too shall pass...
They hate him that rebuketh in the gate, and they abhor him that speaketh uprightly.
Forasmuch therefore as your treading is upon the poor,
and ye take from him burdens of wheat: ye have built houses of hewn stone, but ye shall not dwell in them;
ye have planted pleasant vineyards, but ye shall not drink wine of them.
For I know your manifold transgressions and your mighty sins: they afflict the just, they take a bribe, and they turn aside the poor in the gate from their right.
Can you remember reading about "a thorn in their side"?
"But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes,
and thorns in your sides,
and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.
Moreover it shall come to pass, that I shall do unto you, as I thought to do unto them."
The command I await is...
"Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them".
Obama, and his Marxist minions, SHALL be gathered and bound.
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posted on
06/09/2010 11:42:12 AM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: mojitojoe
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posted on
06/09/2010 11:48:34 AM PDT
by
The Comedian
(Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
To: DJ MacWoW
Is your spring cold? Here it is amazingly cold and rainy. DH lit the woodstove last night and this AM! In JUNE!!!
We are making a garden area but it takes time, felling large numbers of trees, and making an 8 foot fence to keep deer out. They eat everything including things on the “deer don’t eat this” list. They LUV roses.
To: little jeremiah
We're having a cool spring. It gets up into the 80's then plummets to the 60's during the day. 40's at night. By friday it will be 80's again.
As to the the deer, I use Liquid Fence. It's rotten egg solids and garlic. It stinks for the first few hours after it's sprayed then only the deer smell it. It has saved my roses for 3 years now. And the farm is on the "deer path". They stand around in my yard. A doe was stamping her hooves at one of the cats that hang around just a few feet from my back door. They parade through here all the time.
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posted on
06/09/2010 12:07:28 PM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
To: The Comedian
He is incredible. A very nice guy with incredible investigative skills.
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posted on
06/09/2010 12:10:31 PM PDT
by
mojitojoe
(banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Thomas Jefferson)
To: Seizethecarp
60
posted on
06/09/2010 12:14:49 PM PDT
by
Uncle Chip
(TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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