Yeah - lack of a proper Ivy-League brainwashing is definately a negative. .... meyer
Also a strawman argument.
All Strawmen, please report to Post 168.
Posted on 05/31/2010 9:46:47 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
I have lost THREE real life friends now in trying to defend Sarah Palin. On one hand I tend to think the people who call her stupid are not the kind of people I even want as friends anyhow. However, I wonder if im being too harsh and going too far.
I know our country was divided on President Bush. But the division and the hatred for Sarah Palin has been able to top anything. Before Palin, I had a much more positive outlook on people (especially women, mothers, ect) and life in general. Now I find myself seeing people through a totally different lens.
I understand why I am so outraged as a husband and father of two girls. But what is wrong with WOMEN in this country ? they have really let Sarah Palin and her family down by not standing up enough and drawing a line in the sand.
I threaten back - I'm ticked off enough at the sudden lurch towards communism that I am willing to use whatever force necessary to counter any "threat" that the left might make. They think that intimidation is going to work, and it might work on a spineless RINO but it won't work on me.
One can defend Reagan, Palin or some other politician and lose friends over it not because they idolize that politician.
It can be about defending truth, philosophy and freedom.
I don't know why you assume about the poster that it was about idolization.
If you discuss only the issues then you neglect half the debate. Connecting the politician to the issue is also important.
Yeah - lack of a proper Ivy-League brainwashing is definately a negative. Especially when compared to the scholarly professor Obama.
I can think of a few negatives about Palin, but the fact that she doesn't recite the views of the leftist professors from the highly-esteemed colleges is not one of them. Frankly, I'd rather have a vocationally-trained diesel mechanic in the White House than the highly-educated street punk that now occupies 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
You, as many othes on FR, believe Sarah Palin has been chosen by God to lead the US and world during the biblical “armegeddon” and then into 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ after the devil is once again defeated and thrown into the pit.
Nothing disturbing about that...
Read more of his posts. It wasn't an assumption made in a vacuum.
Aptly put. Very well said.
I agree. Graduates of minor colleges with names we can make fun of obviously have no place in higher office. .... denydenydeny
Your comment is a strawman argument, denydenydeny.
What part of "AND IT SHOWS" do you not understand?
What part of "her fund of knowledge is rather shallow" do you not understad?
What part of "Heilemann said that even after crash-course tutorials by campaign aides following the convention, Palin was still woefully uninformed about basic policy issues. 'She still didn’t really understand why there was a North Korea and a South Korea' ..." do you not understand?
When somebody is running to be one heartbeat away from the Presidency and is clueless about the mid-20th Century History that shapes the foundations of the World that the U.S. lives in today, you research the question, "Where the h*ll was she educated?" and, in her case, it turned out to be in schools that were in two "colleges" that offered only Associates degrees and vocational training.
What matters is the FINAL EDUCATIONAL PRODUCT.
Bill Gates is not a "graduate" at all. He is a drop out. In contrast, however, Bill Gates' education, be it a school education or a self education, SHOWS.
What SHOWS in Sarah Palin, be she a graduate or a drop out or a Rhodes Scholar, is that she did not learn very much and is "woefully uninformed" to the point that “She still didn’t really understand why there was a North Korea and a South Korea.”
That level of ignorance, equivalent to Obama not knowing a Corpsman from a "Corpse-Man", is extremely dangerous in a President of the United States.
You are right...the “turn off” factor is geniune.
The difference, of course, is that those who are defending Palin are simply stating TRUTH to the lies being told, while those defending Obama are lying, knowinly or unknowingly.
Yeah - lack of a proper Ivy-League brainwashing is definately a negative. .... meyer
Also a strawman argument.
All Strawmen, please report to Post 168.
Newsflash: life is more than just being pro-Palin or pro-Obama. You have a choice of either whining and stewing over such issues or carrying on!!!
It's why the liberal concept of "diversity" is stupid. Liberals think differences have to do with sex organs, or pigmentation, or physical characteristic's. Real "diversity" always has to do with beliefs ... And I find fewer and fewer liberals I have anything in common with. Their belief come from a poisoned well - I can't go there. I choose not to go there.
With a young person - it's OK - hope can trump reality with the young. But with an older person - it's a reflection of who they really are.
Oh my. One of us definitely has an emotional investment here.
I don’t have any emotional investment in this issue. I think Palin isn’t electable; my preference would be someone like Jim DeMint or Mitch Daniels. But I remain fascinated by the phenomenon of Palin-hate.
Is that a Steve Schmidt quote you are using?
What I like to do when the libs bring up Palin is just say: how can she possibly be any worse than Bush or Obama, especially considering both went to the IVY league schools.
You have to take it slow and show that you will bash people of all sides before they will listen to you.
Slowly but surely, you can let it rip, but dont get defensive off the bat.
Look, i like Sarah a ton, but she has made some goofy mistakes that we should laugh at.
You have to be a little slick about it.
BTW - anyone who hates Palin is usually for reasons that also go into other areas that usually make me not want to be friends with that person in the first place.
Also - never discuss politics with moon bats on the left that are in your family. You will never convince them otherwise and it will get ugly.
Read more of his posts. It wasn't an assumption made in a vacuum.
So then you would agree with the first part of my statement?
I would not want to live in the world you speak of, Melas - any evil would could flourish within your belief system.
Hitler's in power? Don't sweat it - just go home to the one’s you love... Really, I'm sorry, Melas, but you must have a liberal heart beating beneath your conservative one..
se_ohio_young_conservative - the other thing is I heard this argument YESTERDAY from a liberal - this is the NEW liberal answer - just care about your neighbor or "friends" don't care about your country. It's was an odd day to hear the spiel - but most of the people I know are liberals - and I get their crap early on... Be careful - it really does matter who's in charge - ask anyone from some country where large portions of the population were rounded up and killed. And yeah, there's lots of examples in the world. We could be next.
Who's in charge of our country matters.
It matters. It's why we have trolls here. It's why dems cheat the vote.
It's why crooks spend millions to get jobs that wield great power. Liberals know it matters - they want YOU to believe it doesn't matter. They want you to close your eyes - to deny what all of us can see.
It matters to them. It's all that matters to them..
It matters. It's why we have trolls here. It matters to the trolls - and to the people who pay them.
It's why dems cheat the vote. It matters to the cheaters.
It's why crooks spend millions to get jobs that wield great power. Liberals know it matters - they want YOU to believe it doesn't matter. They want you to close your eyes - to deny what all of us can see.
It matters to them. It's all that matters to them..
Big big thanks for this thread.
Many of the lifelong conservatives I know are showing more and more signs of having been brainwashed to the point they aren’t conservative anymore and they don’t even know it.
I have grown more and more politically conservative over the years, so now there’s a gap where there wasn’t before.
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[I’m NOT a racist. I would have jumped for joy if a conservative black person had become POTUS.]
You should never get in a fight over politicians. They are not worth it.
Instead, you should get in fights over ideas, principles, and issues.
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