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Art lovers move graffiti artist's work [Detroit]
UPI ^ | May 15, 2010 | staff reporter

Posted on 05/15/2010 11:25:51 PM PDT by Daffynition

DETROIT, May 15 (UPI) -- A controversy has raged in Detroit over what to do about a graffiti mural left on a decaying plant wall by famed British-born graffiti artist Banksy.

During a recent visit to the Motor City, the artist known as Banksy, an international art world celebrity, secretly stenciled a painting of a boy holding a can of red paint on the wall of the crumbling 3.5-million-square-foot Packard plant. The caption on the work read: "I remember when all this was trees."

A group from the 555 Nonprofit Gallery and Studios, moved the 7-foot-by-5-foot section of cinder block wall with a forklift and placed it in a wooden frame near the base of the Ambassador Bridge, the Detroit Free Press reported.

Now, a debate has erupted over whether anyone had the right to relocate the Banksy piece and whether it should be protected in the future. Some Banksy works have sold for thousands of dollars.

"What does it mean to move a wall?" asked Luis Croquer, director of the Museum of Contemporary Art Detroit. "And beyond legality, who does the wall really belong to, and now does the art belong to the gallery? To everybody? To nobody? We're operating in this space where there's this lawlessness that opens up possibilities that would be harder to encounter in other cities."


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1 posted on 05/15/2010 11:25:51 PM PDT by Daffynition
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2 posted on 05/15/2010 11:29:20 PM PDT by Daffynition ("Play it, Sam, for old times' sake, play 'As Time Goes By'.")
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To: Daffynition

Sure. Little hoodie remembers when it was all trees.


3 posted on 05/15/2010 11:30:31 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Daffynition
During a recent visit to the Motor City, the artist known as Banksy, an international art world celebrity, secretly stenciled a painting of a boy holding a can of red paint on the wall of the crumbling 3.5-million-square-foot Packard plant. The caption on the work read: "I remember when all this was trees."

With the decay and deurbaniazation of Detroit, within a generation you could carve on one of the trees growing there "I remember when this was a factory".

"And beyond legality, who does the wall really belong to, and now does the art belong to the gallery? To everybody? To nobody? We're operating in this space where there's this lawlessness that opens up possibilities that would be harder to encounter in other cities."

Uh, maybe the title holder of the land and what is left of the building? To the person or company which has been paying property tax on it? The those who would have been held legally liable if a loose brick had fallen off and hit Bansky on the head? Your vandalism is not a claim to my property.

4 posted on 05/15/2010 11:31:28 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (I am so immune to satire that I ate three Irish children after reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal")
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To: Daffynition

Hey. Only good thing I’ve read about Detroit, a burgeoning spirit of the arts. Let them have their art.

Like the mouse. Beautifully rendered.


5 posted on 05/15/2010 11:34:05 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Daffynition
A bit of graffiti? A mere bagatelle! The 3.5 million square foot Packard plant is the art work that belongs to world and must be preserved in it's present condition for future generations.

Yeah, that sounds nuts but no more so than does a legal wrangle over some minor and mediocre art work.

6 posted on 05/15/2010 11:35:45 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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So now they have vandalized a property they don’t own.

Oh wait, it Detroit, thats expected to happen to every building.


7 posted on 05/15/2010 11:48:01 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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To: KarlInOhio
With the decay and deurbaniazation of Detroit, within a generation you could carve on one of the trees growing there "I remember when this was a factory".

So true. lol.

8 posted on 05/15/2010 11:49:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Political Correctness Kills)
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9 posted on 05/15/2010 11:50:55 PM PDT by Daffynition ("Play it, Sam, for old times' sake, play 'As Time Goes By'.")
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To: KarlInOhio; Admin Moderator
Mod, if this link should not be posted please remove. Thank you.

Could not be posted due to copyright complaint: "...a guerilla act on top of Banksy’s initial guerilla act"

I'm one of the white people who consider graffiti to be art when it looks like something other than a bunch of squiggles. In every other instance, I consider it vandalism.

10 posted on 05/15/2010 11:59:24 PM PDT by Daffynition ("Play it, Sam, for old times' sake, play 'As Time Goes By'.")
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To: GeronL
And yarn bombing is wrong also?


11 posted on 05/16/2010 12:02:22 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Play it, Sam, for old times' sake, play 'As Time Goes By'.")
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To: BradyLS
That was my first thought too. The little hoodie would have no recollection of a thriving Detroit. His only recollection would be of a decaying Detroit which has spawned many large tracks of green spaces with lots of trees where there were once factories and housing.
12 posted on 05/16/2010 12:07:34 AM PDT by BBell
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13 posted on 05/16/2010 12:08:12 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Play it, Sam, for old times' sake, play 'As Time Goes By'.")
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To: BBell; BradyLS
Banksy is a Brit. Many consider his work to transcend graffiti. I am no judge of that. Others think he is a sell-out to commercialism, b/c the new film about him, Exit Through The Gift Shop, was showing in Detroit, when the images showed up.
14 posted on 05/16/2010 12:14:43 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Play it, Sam, for old times' sake, play 'As Time Goes By'.")
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To: Daffynition
I love the old Packards, sedate luxury and built like tanks. ...deep sighs...

Taking down the old building would provide employment for about half of the unemployed in Detroit.
Just an idea since there is so much that needs to be done there and so many idle hands that could be put to work.

15 posted on 05/16/2010 12:45:18 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
There are some great B&W images of the Packard plant at SilentBuildings.com.

Your notion has merit, regardless of the fact that architect Kahn's design incorporated steel reinforced concrete which replaced wood in factory walls, roofs, and supports. ;)

They should at least, save the facade.

Someone was there before Banksy.


16 posted on 05/16/2010 1:07:26 AM PDT by Daffynition ("Play it, Sam, for old times' sake, play 'As Time Goes By'.")
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yo [put some cap/mpc up in this sis


17 posted on 05/16/2010 1:21:39 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (1.416785(71) x 10^32)
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To: Daffynition
Banksy is a Brit. Many consider his work to transcend graffiti.

I can see that. My beef with it is that it requires people to put up with it if other folks think that they're too plebeian to understand it. And it just gives license to the hoods to continue tagging their turf.

18 posted on 05/16/2010 1:32:19 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: KarlInOhio; reagan_fanatic; a real Sheila; 50mm; Lizavetta; Roscoe Karns; edzo4; Netizen; ...
TreeMessage

I remember when this use to be a factory.

19 posted on 05/16/2010 1:40:42 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: Daffynition
Simple answer to their dilemma. Knock down the wall with the graffiti on it and celebrate.

These people glorifying the destruction caused by graffiti need to volunteer their faces as graffiti murals.

Millions upon millions of dollars is wasted on graffiti abatement. Where are the adults in this world?

20 posted on 05/16/2010 1:49:18 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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