Posted on 05/14/2010 3:21:18 PM PDT by bushpilot1
Meandering through my 1928 Edition of Bouvier's Law Dictionary on page 833, Native, Native Citizen is defined:
Those born in a country, of parents who are citizens.
If Obama does not meet the standards of a native citizen how can he be a natural born citizen.
Indonesian citizenship is exclusive. If his stepfather took out citizenship papers for him, he had to renaturalize on reentering the U.S. Did he do that? Did his mother do that for him? Remember, she was supposedly an Indonesian citizen herself when she died.
Ohhh -- don't sell yourself short. You deserve most of the credit.
I’m not sure about that... I thought that the citizenship granted by Indonesia to children of non-Indonesian parents was conditional until the child was 18. And the US does not allow you to forsake your citizenship until you are of legal age (18), meaning your parents cannot force you to lose your citizenship.
Do you have a long-standing personal relationship with Ann Coulter whereby you can personally vouch for her integrity?
Or are you just a delusional nutbag who thinks people he sees on television are your honest and true friends?
Because there are so many damn illegal aliens sneaking across the border
putting their kids in the schools without helping you pay the school taxes.
It's destroying your economy. Illegal aliens are known for doing that ...
I’m a “delusional nutbag” who has more confidence in Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh than in Internet posters who pretend Vattel was the end-all of NBC definition...and who ignore the fact that they cannot get a single Congressman, state legislature, DA or court to agree with their legal interpretation.
"We" ... who are "we"? Do you mean Republicans?
Collectively there are more Democrats & Independents who question
Obama's Eligibility than do Republicans.
In the Tea Party, a MINORITY firmly believe Obama was born in the US:
The problem is, for Democrats it doesn’t matter, and for a large selection of the rest it doesn’t matter.
The point I was making is that the infighting and attacks on those deemed “not conservative enough” will result in - once again - conservatives and the GOP losing. The conspiracy theories don’t help.
NICE STATEMENT!
Maybe the legallity of his parents marriage could possibly come into play if he was born in the U S. However, if he was born in Kenya, as I believe he was, bigamy was legal there so the Kenyan birth makes him a citizen. The fact his mother was American does not come into play because she was too young to convey auto American citizenship on him. His parents would be considered legally married when they were in Kenya but perhaps not legally married when they were in the U S. That aspect does pose an interesting angle.
It would appear that ...born in Hawaii of a bigamous, therefore not legal, marriage, maybe he was not a dual citizen at birth. Born in Kenya of a bigamous but legal marriage, not an American citizen.
That’s before you throw in the Indonesian connection.
My apologies. I left out a word that changes ther meaning of my post.
I meant to say...if he was born in Kenya bigamy is legal there so the Kenyan birth makes him a A KENYAN CITIZEN.
Does everyone see importance of seeing all his records?
The predominantly Muslim area of modern Kenya prior to independence was the Coast Province of Zanzibar which the UK leased from Zanibar.
Obama Sr and his first tribal wife Kezia were not from nor married in the Coast Province, but rather in UK Kenya Colony where bigamy was actually illegal even for Muslims even if attempted after a previous tribal marriage.
• See Kenya Marriage Act of 1902 paragraph #49:
49. Whoever contracts a marriage under this Act, being at the time married in accordance with native law or custom or in accordance with Mohammedan law to any person other than the person with whom such marriage is contracted, shall be guilty of an offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.
kenyalaw.org/family/statutes/...?file=The+marriage+act.pdf
• BNA of 1948 Legitimation of persons born out of wedlock:
23.—(1) A person born out of wedlock and legitimated by the subsequent marriage of his parents shall, as from the date of the marriage or of the commencement of this Act, whichever is later, be treated, for the purpose of determining whether he is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies, or was a British subject immediately before the commencement of this Act, as if he had been born legitimate.
(2) A person shall be deemed for the purposes of this section to have been legitimated by the subsequent marriage of his parents if by the law of the place in which his father was domiciled at the time of the marriage the marriage operated immediately or subsequently to legitimate him, and not otherwise.
http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm
“(2) Subject to the provisions of section twenty-three of this Act, any reference in this Act to a child shall be construed as a reference to a legitimate child; and the expressions “father”, “ancestor” and “descended” shall be construed accordingly.”
oh, parsy, where art thou?
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