Posted on 05/14/2010 3:21:18 PM PDT by bushpilot1
Meandering through my 1928 Edition of Bouvier's Law Dictionary on page 833, Native, Native Citizen is defined:
Those born in a country, of parents who are citizens.
If Obama does not meet the standards of a native citizen how can he be a natural born citizen.
That’s where his friend parsley goes for help!!!
“I don’t have a single memory of my Dad ever complaining about anything”
I see it didn’t rub off. I can tell you’re proud of him. I wonder what he would think of your new positions and comrades.
Now that the Obama-supporting After-Birthers have become the bungling laughing stock
of the very people they are attempting to criticize, it's a sure sign that the trolls have hit:
Butterfly Bilderberg, mimi, Bob Weber, Loren, TexasFilly, milspec and the rest of the
Politijaber-monkeys will be there to welcome parsi/peredur and Mr Rogers on the skids.
Maybe someone has answered already. The married or not married has to do with, if 0bama was born not on US soil, he is still a US citizen (although not natural born due to his father being a foreigner) IF his mother and father were not married.
If they were married, and his mother was under age as noted due to the law at that time, and he was born on foreign soil, he would not have even been any kind of US citizen at birth.
His parents being married or unmarried only affects his citizenship, if born off of US soil, and if his mother had not spent 5 years in the US after the age of 14, which she had not. It does not change his non-NBC status.
He got real pissed when I asked him, if his children now in the service would be proud of his bashing his own military comrades!!!
Rephrasing; whether they were legally married (bigamy) or not, if and again IF senior is the father, then junior is also a dual citizen???
You’ll have to ask the legal experts.
But from what I can gether, he was born with dual citizenship if his parents were married or not.
But if his parents were married (and they had a legal divorce so that pretty much settles it legally), and he was born in another country (remains to be seen but it seems most likely he was born in Kenya), he would not even a be dual citizen, since he would hold no US citizenship status at all.
Was curiosity among booted???
Wasn't that mojitojoe's doing?
Heeheehhehehehehehehe!
“Instead, Barack Sr met Barack Jr's mother, Ann, in Honolulu. She was an 18-year-old fellow student from Kansas and within months they were united in what appears to have been a bigamist marriage.”
Danamco asks:
“Does that interfere with the blood coming from Obama Sr???”
The BNA of 1948 explicitly excludes illegitimate children from receiving UK citizenship by blood.
From BNA of 1948:
“(2) Subject to the provisions of section twenty-three of this Act, any reference in this Act to a child shall be construed as a reference to a legitimate child; and the expressions “father”, “ancestor” and “descended” shall be construed accordingly.”
http://www.uniset.ca/naty/BNA1948.htm
It seems likely that only a UK court could determine whether Obama’s parent's marriage was bigamous under UK/Kenya colonial law and whether Obama is therefore illegitimate and thus not a UK citizen when born. But perhaps a US court could take evidence and rule on allegations that the HI marriage was bigamous.
Then SCOTUS would have to determine whether Obama, as the son of an unknowingly single mother, received unitary US citizenship from her and then separately decide whether lack of dual citizenship qualified Obama to be NBC or whether two US citizen parents are required to be NBC.
I have no idea whether SCOTUS would judge the NBC status of an illegitimate child acknowledged by a UK subject father vs. a child of an unknown father. I suspect they would say there was no difference but others disagree. Until SCOTUS rules on such a case, we can only guess.
Obama is the only party that I see having an interest in proving that he, himself, is illegitimate. This is on the assumption that this would be the only way he could be deemed NBC because of his UK subject father in a pending court proceeding (assuming a single US citizen mother on US soil is sufficient for NBC.
No such proceeding is on the horizon unless Lakin’s court martial or Donofrio’s quo warranto get traction. Note that 40% of US citizens are born to single mothers. If two US citizen parents were to be ruled by SCOTUS as a requirement to be POTUS instead of simple unitary US citizenship, that would be a political nightmare.
And yet you show up on everyone of these threads to defend the man who is bringing about the destruction of this Country.
You yourself stated that you condone the idea of obama having a foreign father, would you have that opinion if it turned out that osama bin laden turned out to be obama's real father?
You have also stated that for every argument for NBC being of two citizen parents, there is one against, why?
You choose the arguments that support the man you portend to despise, and you wonder why some here abuse you the way they have, you're a disgrace to the uniform if you really wore one.
Why yes, yes, it was!
But even children born to single mothers usually have a father listed on the birth certificate. Probably only a small percentage list “unknown”.
NBC doesn’t mean that the parents have to be legally married. AFAIK.
Snort!!!
One down, many to go!
“I wonder what he would think of your new positions and comrades.”
I suspect he’d be glad I didn’t turn out to be an ass like you...
The only military member I’ve bashed is one refusing to deploy...but he obeys all his other orders, and collects his pay. Mighty selective beliefs he has, isn’t it! But then, you think the Constitution allows the military to decide who is President, and who is not.
Your constant use of Alinsky tactics exposes you, obamanoid.
“And yet you show up on everyone of these threads to defend the man who is bringing about the destruction of this Country.”
I’ve frequently attacked him and his policies...but his election?
Have you noticed McCain & Palin whining about how Obama isn’t REALLY President? Neither have I...
“You yourself stated that you condone the idea of obama having a foreign father, would you have that opinion if it turned out that osama bin laden turned out to be obama’s real father?”
Yes. And for the record, I’ve taken more action against Bin Laden than you have, and been stationed within sight of Tora Bora. But the Constitution is what it is, and natural born citizen is a phrase allowing foreign fathers (and mothers) if born on US soil.
Funny, you have.
Unlike you, I haven’t read or studied Alinsky. He wasn’t on the CSAF Reading List...
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