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Weekly Gardening Thread – 2010 Vol. 14 May 7
Free Republic | 5-7-2010 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 05/07/2010 6:30:17 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good morning gardeners! If you are a gardener or you are just starting out and are in need of advice or just encouragement please feel free to join in and enjoy the friendly discussion. There are many Freepers from all over the Good Ol’ USA that are willing and eager to help.

I thought a little primer on fertilizers might come in handy this time of year especially to those of you just starting out.   

What do the numbers mean? 

Every bag or container of commercial fertilizer has a three number code that tells you the percentage that that particular fertilizer has of the "Big Three" nutrients used by plants.

The big three nutrients are, in the order listed on the container:

  1. Nitrogen - Important for green growth 
  2. Phosphorous - For flower and fruit production
  3. Potassium - Strong stems roots and other functions.

A bag of fertilizer labeled as 13-13-13 will have equal percentages of nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium for a total of 39%; the rest is filler.

Ideally a soil test is needed to determine how much of these nutriments your soil needs. 

Also  the type of vegetables or plants you are growing may require different percentages of these nutriments to grow or produce successfully. Know your plants needs.

And remember small amounts will go a long way. Don't over fertilize. Too much at one time or too often can overwhelm plant systems and cause problems.

 


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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Thank you!


141 posted on 05/07/2010 9:02:44 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: DCBryan1
Any retaining wall here in Calif over 3 or 4 feet must be engineered but it sounds like you have room for several 3 foot lifts. I use a block that has a lip on the bottom back and you offset each row...

Home Depot has several sizes such as thsese... Mash Here

142 posted on 05/07/2010 9:03:21 AM PDT by tubebender ( I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it...)
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To: kalee

YOU HAVE

ADDED TO THE WEEKLY GARDENING PING LIST

143 posted on 05/07/2010 9:03:43 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I am doing pumpkins again this year ... adding some white ones too! Also growing some indian corn and interesting gourds to sell for decorating with the pumpkins. If I can squeeze it in, I’m going to bale the straw left when we cut our wheat in June, so I’ll have the entire decorating package. The wheat straw should make a prettier gold bale than the regular grass bales that I had last year.


144 posted on 05/07/2010 9:05:11 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde; Red_Devil 232; tubebender; Black Agnes; Diana in Wisconsin

I’ve got a fairly large patch of grass/pasture weeds to dig out to accommodate my corn patch. I’m not looking forward to the job. Looking at Just a Dumb Blonde’s gorgeous plantings, it gives me an idea. I’m looking for suggestions and am open to anything that will save me a day of digging.
I have a Mantis tiller, for information’s sake.

I’m going to raise the bed where my corn will be about 6-8 inches, surrounded by landscape timbers. What if I covered the weedy grass (my husband says to burn it first — yes/no?) with weed cloth, or newspaper, and cut an x everywhere I’m going to put a corn mound. Then I pile my soil additives on top of the weed cloth, or newspaper and plant my seeds, or started seeds, there. Would the roots of the corn, etc. work their way down through the matted grass into the soil with such a method? Woudl the weed cloth and/or newspaper layer stop most of the weeds from come back up? Would the corn, beans, squash get enough nutrients (supplemented by lots of manure and other fertilizer) to grow and produce?

A lot of the farmers around here get paid for “no till”. So do I really have to till?


145 posted on 05/07/2010 9:05:50 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rightly_dividing

Glisten is a nice look! Goes hand in hand with Glow.


146 posted on 05/07/2010 9:10:50 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
LOL. I was really skinny - 6’ 2” 145 lbs - when I joined in 1972, but went to boot camp, but came out at 185 lbs eight weeks later.

I was so used to getting up at 5 AM and working on the farm before heading for school. I was not used to three big square meals per day. Boot camp was like a vacation for me.

I am still around 190 now, and have to watch how far apart I plant my garden rows. I did use re-bar for staking some of the tomatoes this year. Yes, life is an injustice to us gardeners.

147 posted on 05/07/2010 9:15:20 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

1) Where’d you get those neat tomato cages?

2) I received a beautiful hydrangea from my daughter — FTD — and it came with care instructions for every plant that they could have sent — EXCEPT my hydrangea. Many hydrangeas grow in WI and some will not. This one is bright blue with green and pink tinged edges before the petals fully color up. It is unmarked. Do you have any suggestions for miscellaneous hydrangea care in WI?

Or, is this heartbreak waiting to happen? I’ll take a picture and post it.


148 posted on 05/07/2010 9:20:52 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

This is one problem. You are going to make some nice timbered beds for corn but corn should not be grown in the same place each year. I would grow corn the regular way...not in beds. You could rotate with beans.

Use the raised beds for other vegetables - my opinion


149 posted on 05/07/2010 9:25:59 AM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I like your heavy clay. You have an inheritance of river born trace minerals there


150 posted on 05/07/2010 9:28:04 AM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I really did not know wheat was grown in La. Is it a common crop grown in our areas?

You do not want to know what I paid for smallish wheat bales at Lowe’s this year!


151 posted on 05/07/2010 9:36:55 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

This is my mystery hydrangea. It is balled and burlaped and ready to plant. The problem is that I do not know which variety it is, or whether it will survive in WI. Or, should I just enjoy it in a pot?

The photo colors are not quite true. It actually has more of a violet tint, than a true blue. It's striking. And I know enough about hydrangeas that I know never to expect it to produce this color again in my garden, if it survives.

152 posted on 05/07/2010 9:52:24 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: dennisw

Thank you. Actually, that is my intent. But I have to persuade my husband to help me to put these in. I knew that I was going to run out of space, but my husband was reluctant to give me any more. They can easily be converted to other plants next year. And growing beans with them may just allow them to be used two years for corn — or all beans next year — or all squash — or ???


153 posted on 05/07/2010 9:55:38 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: handmade
I suppose one could consider that a shameless plug- but I consider it telling me something I want to know.

Exactamundo. It is never a shameless plug when providing a link to products and services that helps us all become better gardeners.

It is also in our best interest to help support businesses that employ all those conservative Freepers out there... :-)

154 posted on 05/07/2010 9:57:23 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

corn is a notorious nitrogen eater. You can rotate it with beans which give off nitrogen. Not necessarily grow at same time. But you could. Squash....grow wherever you like

Don’t be limited. Bottom line is don’t grow corn on the same spot year after year


155 posted on 05/07/2010 10:06:21 AM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: Red_Devil 232
"I really did not know wheat was grown in La. Is it a common crop grown in our areas?"

Yep, wheat is common here ... they have developed varieties that produce very well. We have only 400 acres this year, which is part of a rotation with cotton, as the wheat provides much organic matter to the soil. If you have irrigation, you can plant cotton right after the wheat is harvested and it will be no-tilled directly into the beds covered with wheat stubble. Here's my farmer hubby in a wheat field:

Photobucket

156 posted on 05/07/2010 10:09:18 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Nice wheat; cute hubby. Make sure he wears sun screen.


157 posted on 05/07/2010 10:25:57 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: dennisw

When you say “spot” do you mean the whole bed, or the exact spot? I’m planning on growing the corn in “hills” alternated with squash hills. Beans will be grown WITH the corn — right up the stalk. Would it be enough of a change to grow the corn in the squash hills the following year and the schash in the corn hills? Or, do I have to abandon the whole bed? I figured that the beans would add enough nitrogen to “fix” the bed for the following year.


158 posted on 05/07/2010 10:30:34 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Black Agnes; Red_Devil 232; Jim Robinson; Daisyjane69
>>Has anyone started asparagus from seed? How did it turn out?

Started some a couple of years ago as part of my perennial edibles experiment.

Here's what it looks like this morning after a 29 degree F night at 7000 ft.:

 
This will be the 3rd year after planting from seed.     Looks like a success.... so I'm going to put in more this year.
 
 
Perennial Onions, Kale, Asparagus and Garlic are doing pretty well considering the low / late temps.... all keepers for cold-gardening FReepers.
 
 
Last year, despite near complete defoliation by hail twice,  I had a good harvest of Squash and Potatoes that lasted through the winter.   For those willing to work, there's absolutely no reason why they should go hungry or want for nutritious food.   Each one, teach one.... and all that.
 
And for those not willing to work... it's good to have FRiends...
 
Clear?
 
 
...for garden pest control, just in case anybody gets any  crop "redistribution" ideas.
 
 
 
Thanks to everybody who makes the "FR Gardening" ping list possible.  What a wonderful FR-American resource... as usual.
 
=Bill
 

159 posted on 05/07/2010 10:34:41 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If you are growing corn that way then perhaps you can grow it in that same corn-beans-squash plot each year. You wont be able to stake out the exact spot where each corn plant was......And put beans exactly there the next year. Just hoe the soil around and mix it


160 posted on 05/07/2010 10:36:49 AM PDT by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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