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Royal Ash: Royal society jumps on magma driven worry express
Watts Up With That? ^ | April 19 , 2010 | Steven Goddard

Posted on 04/20/2010 11:37:52 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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While volcanic ash falls on Britain, in yet another assault on reason, the Royal Society has warned :

In papers published by the Royal Society, researchers warned that melting ice, sea level rises and even increasingly heavy storms and rainfall – predicted consequences of rising temperatures – could affect the Earth’s crust.

I also watched the movies 2012 and The Day After Tomorrow,  but apparently I didn’t take them as seriously as some – Zombieland was probably more realistic.

As the land ”rebounds” back up once the weight of the ice has been removed – which could be by as much as a kilometre in places such as Greenland and Antarctica – then if, in the worst case scenario, all the ice were to melt – it could trigger earthquakes. The increase in seismic activity could, in turn, cause underwater landslides that spark tsunamis. A potential additional risk is from ”ice-quakes” generated when the ice sheets break up, causing tsunamis which could threaten places such as New Zealand, Newfoundland in Canada and Chile.

Pleeezzz  …. Even if these claims worth worth considering, it would take tens or hundreds of thousands of years for Greenland and Antarctica to melt.

Back in the real world we hear from the Icelandic Meteorological Service that the glacier is what is causing the ash :

Einar Kjartansson, a geophysicist at the Meteorological Office.believes the volcano has melted about 10 percent of the glacier

It still could take months for the volcano to burn through the rest of the glacier, to a point where the steam and ash would turn instead into lava, he said.

What he is saying is that the sooner the glacier melts, the sooner the volcanic hazards will subside.   This must be tough to swallow for people who believe that world is better off when it is cold and icy.



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1 posted on 04/20/2010 11:37:52 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

When Mount St. Helens erupted, Jimmah Carter had this
idea to quench the eruption by print money and bombing
the volcano with the money.

He then wanted Mount St. Helens to be renamed the Magma Carter.


2 posted on 04/20/2010 11:41:12 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: BIGLOOK; NormsRevenge; Marine_Uncle; SWAMPSNIPER; fight_truth_decay; tx_eggman; bd476; ...
The Royal Society???

This is getting crazy.

3 posted on 04/20/2010 11:42:33 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

ROFL!


4 posted on 04/20/2010 11:43:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This was the same group that said heavier than air machines were impossible ...


5 posted on 04/20/2010 11:45:42 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Those That Turn Their Swords into Plows Will Plow For Those That Don't.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So global warming caused the volcano to erupt? Well, good. All that ash will cool things down.


6 posted on 04/20/2010 11:46:31 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

We all learned just a few days ago that if you put too many Marines on an Island, it will capsize. See where I’m going here? Time to call out the Marines, have them tip the island over and extinguish the Volcano.


7 posted on 04/20/2010 11:59:13 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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From following the comments we have this from the Guardian (UK):

Scientists call for research on climate link to geological hazards

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Experts say suggestions that climate change could trigger more volcanoes and earthquakes are speculative, but there is enough evidence to take the threat seriously

David Adam, environment correspondent

Monday 19 April 2010 06.30 BST

Scientists today called for wide-ranging research into whether more volcanoes, earthquakes, landslides and tsunamis could be triggered by rising global temperatures under global warming.

Significant warming of the atmosphere in the distant past can be linked to changes in geological activity, they say. Suggestions that climate change predicted for coming decades could bring similar changes remain speculative, but the scientists say there is enough evidence to take the threat seriously. Some experts have already linked current levels of global warming to rockfalls and landslides in mountain regions.

Richard Betts, a climate modeller at the Met Office Hadley Centre in Exeter, said: "This is a new area of academic research with potentially interesting implications. It was previously assumed there was no link at all between climate change and these events, but it is possible to speculate that climate change might make some more likely. If we do get large amounts of climate change in the long term then we might see some impacts."

He said there was no evidence that current levels of global warming were influencing events such as last week's earthquake in China that killed hundreds of people and the volcanic eruption in Iceland that grounded flights across Europe.

Experts say global warming could affect geological hazards such as earthquakes because of the way it can move large amounts of mass around on the Earth's surface. Melting glaciers and rising sea levels shift the distribution of huge amounts of water, which release and increase pressures through the ground.

These pressure changes could make ruptures and seismic shifts more likely. Research from Germany suggests that the Earth's crust can sometimes be so close to failure that tiny changes in surface pressure brought on my heavy rain can trigger quakes. Tropical storms, snowfall and shifting tides have all been linked to shifts in seismic activity.

8 posted on 04/20/2010 12:05:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have a crazy idea,,,If a volcano decides to do anything fun, maybe we have to accept it and work around it, rather than follow this insane British insistence that the earth remain exactly as it is now!


9 posted on 04/20/2010 12:07:00 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Amagi; Fiddlstix; Tunehead54; Clive; FrPR; tubebender; marvlus; ...
 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

10 posted on 04/20/2010 12:08:45 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (Warmists as "traffic light" apocalyptics: "Greens too yellow to admit they're really Reds."-Monckton)
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To: NavyCanDo
LOL!
11 posted on 04/20/2010 12:18:39 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: steelyourfaith
Well ...from Scientific America & Reuters:

Ice cap thaw may awaken Icelandic volcanoes

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April 16, 2010 | 59 comments


Ice cap thaw may awaken Icelandic volcanoes An aerial handout photo from the Icelandic Coast Guard shows melting ice caused by a volcanic eruption at Eyjafjalla Glacier in southern Iceland April 14, 2010. The volcanic eruption on Wednesday partially melted a glacier, setting off a major flood that threatened to damage roads and bridges and forcing hundreds to evacuate from a thinly populated area. Picture taken April 14, 2010. REUTERS/Icelandic Coast Guard/Arni Saeberg/Handout

OSLO (Reuters) - A thaw of Iceland's ice caps in coming decades caused by climate change may trigger more volcanic eruptions by removing a vast weight and freeing magma from deep below ground, scientists said on Friday.

They said there was no sign that the current eruption from below the Eyjafjallajokull glacier that has paralysed flights over northern Europe was linked to global warming. The glacier is too small and light to affect local geology.

"Our work suggests that eventually there will be either somewhat larger eruptions or more frequent eruptions in Iceland in coming decades," said Freysteinn Sigmundsson, a vulcanologist at the University of Iceland.

"Global warming melts ice and this can influence magmatic systems," he told Reuters. The end of the Ice Age 10,000 years ago coincided with a surge in volcanic activity in Iceland, apparently because huge ice caps thinned and the land rose.

"We believe the reduction of ice has not been important in triggering this latest eruption," he said of Eyjafjallajokull. "The eruption is happening under a relatively small ice cap."

Carolina Pagli, a geophysicist at the University of Leeds in England, said there were risks that climate change could also trigger volcanic eruptions or earthquakes in places such as Mount Erebus in Antarctica, the Aleutian islands of Alaska or Patagonia in South America.

MAGMA

"The effects would be biggest with ice-capped volcanoes," she said. "If you remove a load that is big enough you will also have an effect at depths on magma production."

She and Sigmundsson wrote a 2008 paper in the scientific journal Geophysical Research Letters about possible links between global warming and Icelandic volcanoes.

That report said that about 10 percent of Iceland's biggest ice cap, Vatnajokull, has melted since 1890 and the land nearby was rising about 25 millimetres (0.98 inch) a year, bringing shifts in geological stresses.

They estimated that the thaw had led to the formation of 1.4 cubic km (0.3 cubic mile) of magma deep below ground over the past century.

At high pressures such as under an ice cap, they reckon that rocks cannot expand to turn into liquid magma even if they are hot enough. "As the ice melts the rock can melt because the pressure decreases," she said.

12 posted on 04/20/2010 12:35:48 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Looks like we are dealing with a royal batch of idiots.


13 posted on 04/20/2010 12:49:00 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Sure appears that way!


14 posted on 04/20/2010 12:57:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What a bunch of Royal Ashwipes. (/family friendly)


15 posted on 04/20/2010 12:57:30 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Chuck DeVore - CA Senator. Believe.)
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To: SkyDancer

It might also be the group that said in 1889 everything that could be invented had been invented.


16 posted on 04/20/2010 2:46:30 PM PDT by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: John-Irish

I think it was the head of the US patent office that said that ... wanted to close it down ...


17 posted on 04/20/2010 2:54:46 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Those That Turn Their Swords into Plows Will Plow For Those That Don't.)
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To: SkyDancer

Ah yes that’s it. A like-minded thinker obviously.


18 posted on 04/20/2010 2:59:31 PM PDT by John-Irish ("Shame of him who thinks of it''.)
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To: John-Irish

I remember seeing a poster with stuff like that on it such as a Warner Brother saying “Who wants to hear actors talk” ... and someone from IBM saying something about home computers won’t be popular or impossible ....


19 posted on 04/20/2010 3:06:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Those That Turn Their Swords into Plows Will Plow For Those That Don't.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; ...
Thanks Ernest. Any word yet from these demagogues on the effect of giant hydroelectric projects, such as the Three Gorges Dam (Communists) or Aswan High Dam (Muzzies, but built by Commies)?
in yet another assault on reason, the Royal Society has warned:
In papers published by the Royal Society, researchers warned that melting ice, sea level rises and even increasingly heavy storms and rainfall -- predicted consequences of rising temperatures -- could affect the Earth’s crust... As the land "rebounds" back up once the weight of the ice has been removed -- which could be by as much as a kilometre in places such as Greenland and Antarctica -- then if, in the worst case scenario, all the ice were to melt -- it could trigger earthquakes.

20 posted on 04/20/2010 3:41:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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