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Leonard Pitts:Civil War was all about slavery
News-Record.com ^ | 4.14.2010 | Leonard Pitts

Posted on 04/15/2010 1:16:02 PM PDT by wolfcreek

Ten years ago, I received an e-mail from a reader who signed him or herself "J.D." "I am a white racist," wrote J.D., "a white supremacist and I do not deny it."

From that, you'd suspect J.D. had nothing of value to say. You'd be mistaken. J.D. wrote in response to a column documenting the fact that preservation of slavery was the prime directive of the Confederacy. "I was most pleased to see you write what we both know to be the truth," the e-mail said. "I never cease to be amazed at the Sons of Confederate Veterans and similar 'heritage not hate' groups who are constantly whining that the Confederacy was not a white, racist government ..."

That argument, noted J.D. with wry amusement, plays well with "white people who want to be Confederates without any controversy."

(Excerpt) Read more at news-record.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Society
KEYWORDS: civilwar; playtheracecard; racebaiting; revisionisthistory
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21 posted on 04/15/2010 1:42:50 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: SatinDoll

Excuse me, but aren’t you the one sanitizing history? Ownership of slaves was not illegal under the US Constitution at the time of the Civil War.


22 posted on 04/15/2010 1:43:35 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: wolfcreek

Yawn, black Americans just can’t get past the fact that America doesn’t view them as slaves anymore and are completely capable of standing on their own two feet.

And the UnAmerican Democrat party doesn’t like it one bit!


23 posted on 04/15/2010 1:43:42 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Clock King

So he likes this JD because JD endorses the theory that Pitts wants endorsed.
Big surprise.


24 posted on 04/15/2010 1:44:19 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (It wasn’t “hope and change” it was “rope and chains”. Y'all just misheard him.))
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To: IrishCatholic

It was Eugene Robinson yesterday saying the same thing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2492974/posts

I bet there are many others.

Oh and BTW: you’d be wrong and current events are providing the proof.


25 posted on 04/15/2010 1:44:20 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: VRWCmember
Yes, slavery was AN issue, but ultimately it was an issue of the southern states attempting to exert their sovereignty as states against increasing federal encroachment.

What federal encroachment are we talking about?

26 posted on 04/15/2010 1:45:06 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ontap
The civil war was partially about slavery but it was mostly about the states right to secede.

And why exactly did the states want to secede?

27 posted on 04/15/2010 1:46:18 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: wolfcreek
What events? The only current events I see, and have seen here before on FR, is the attempted rewriting of history. But, facts get in the way every time.
The Civil War was about slavery. Revisionism started when it ended and continues right into the 21st Century, right here.
28 posted on 04/15/2010 1:49:21 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: a fool in paradise
Why didn’t all of the Union states outlaw slavery then?

Your question should really be, "Why didn't all the slave states secede?" And the answer to that is, the felt secession was a worse option than remaining part of the United States. But as a matter of fact, out of the 25 states loyal to the United States, 20 had outlawed slavery before the war. One, West Virginia, entered as a slave state (the legacy of formerly being part of Virginia), but quickly outlawed it. Two more outlawed it during the war. The 13th amendment abolished slavery throughout the United States, but it took the election of 1864 to get enough Democrats out of congress to allow it to pass.

29 posted on 04/15/2010 1:49:29 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: roses of sharon
America doesn’t view them as slaves anymore and are completely capable of standing on their own two feet.
That may have been true 40 years ago, but LBJ and the Liberals have made them as dependent on their 'Masta' (i.e. the gubmint) as any slave was 240 years ago.
How any black man or woman with half a brain doesn't see this today is just unbelievable.
30 posted on 04/15/2010 1:51:09 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: wolfcreek

For some, slavery was an issue. If you would have asked a typical Union soldier he was fighting to free the slaves, he would of said, Hell no! You would have gotten the similar answer from the typical Confederate soldier if he were asked, Are you fighting to own slaves? The attempt to pain the Union as an army on a moral and spiritual mission is pure fantasy. The reason for going to war was to “save” the Union. Only about 5% of whites owned slaves in the South. The other 95% never owned a slave and lived in worse economic conditions than many slaves. They had no vested interest in slavery, but they wanted to keep their Southern culture.


31 posted on 04/15/2010 1:53:04 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: SatinDoll

“... it was an issue of the southern states attempting to exert their sovereignty as states against increasing federal encroachment.”

I am always amused by this argument.

I too am amused. The follow on question is: Over what issue were the “southern states attempting to exert their sovereignty as states against increasing federal encroachment?” Slavery!


33 posted on 04/15/2010 1:58:11 PM PDT by TheDon ("Citizen" of Kalifornia, USSA)
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To: Nosterrex
Only about 5% of whites owned slaves in the South. The other 95% never owned a slave

When I was growing up my mother didn't drive. We had one car and it was titled in my father's name. You could truthfully say that only 20 percent of the family owned a car. But 100% got benefit from that car ownership. The same is true with slave ownership. It may be true that only 5% of all Southerners owned slaves. But if all of them were married then suddenly 10% of all Southerners derive benefit from that slave ownership. Add a couple of kids and the percentage goes up. The more accurate comparison would be to look at the number of slave owners and the compare it with the number of families listed in the 1860 census. Look at that and you see that in states like Mississippi half of all families owned slaves. In the confederacy as a whole between one-third and one-quarter of all families had slaves. Look at it in those terms and it's easy to see why they would fight for it.

...and lived in worse economic conditions than many slaves.

Nonsense.

They had no vested interest in slavery, but they wanted to keep their Southern culture

A culture built on slavery.

34 posted on 04/15/2010 1:59:44 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: roses of sharon

A black caller to Rush’s show this morning confirmed what you say. He said that he was a conservative (right!) but was concerned when Tea Partiers (read: whites) say that they want to return to our nation’s roots.

“Doesn’t that mean a return to slavery?” (I’m paraphrasing here).

Nothing that Rush did or could say could penetrate the obdurate skull that insists on equating conservative republican governance with racism. The caller sees ghosts that do not exist.


35 posted on 04/15/2010 1:59:59 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: IrishCatholic
“What events?”

The FedGov’s current overreaching/overtaxation/overmandation.

The CW was more about money/power/political will than it was about slavery.
It took over 10 years of squabbling before any shots were fired in anger.

36 posted on 04/15/2010 2:00:02 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: oh8eleven

Which is the Real ‘Racist’ Party: Fifteen Questions for Democrats

http://bigjournalism.com/fross/2010/02/08/which-is-the-real-racist-party-fifteen-questions-for-democrats/

Great Moments in Democrat Racist History - FDR
http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/04/great-moments-in-democrat-racist.html


37 posted on 04/15/2010 2:01:12 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants"-Albert Camus)
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To: DomainMaster
But it only took six weeks for the “no invasion” invasion to begin.

After the South chose to begin the war by bombarding Sumter into surrender. Having chosen war then they alone were responsible for keeping war away from them. They failed in that. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind and all the rest.

38 posted on 04/15/2010 2:01:28 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

You mean that it was probably written by some SPLC intern? Well yes, that’s par for the course.


39 posted on 04/15/2010 2:03:16 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/1980)
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To: Non-Sequitur

40 posted on 04/15/2010 2:03:28 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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