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Were confederate soldiers terrorists?
cnn.com ^ | 4.11.2010 | Roland S. Martin

Posted on 04/12/2010 12:12:09 PM PDT by wolfcreek

Based on the hundreds of e-mails, Facebook comments and Tweets I've read in response to my denunciation of Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell's decision to honor Confederates for their involvement in the Civil War -- which was based on the desire to continue slavery -- the one consistent thing that supporters of the proclamation offer up as a defense is that these individuals were fighting for what they believed in and defending their homeland.

In criticizing me for saying that celebrating the Confederates was akin to honoring Nazi soldiers for killing of Jews during the Holocaust, Rob Wagner said, "I am simply defending the honor and dignity of men who were given no choice other than to fight, some as young as thirteen."

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To: stop_fascism

I was not aware of those facts. I’ll have to do more reading on him.

Even though he was a conventional general it still did not stop Gates from using guerilla warefare. And because Washington was on the colonialists side he might as well have been a guerilla fighter himself.

As president he did not hesitate to use a federalized militia of 13,000 men by way of the Militia Law of 1792. He federalized the militia which he previous denigrated.

Whiskey makers and those who had a taste for it (out west) suddenly had an excessive excise tax on whiskey. This really pissed them off and motivated them to rebel against this tyrannical tax. What if the rebels had seriously organized and fought this 13,000 strong federalized militia using guerilla tactics? Who would have been the terrorists?

Since that time the District of Criminals has been just that - a den of criminals, vipers, and sharks. The citizenry of this country who rebel against these organized criminals’ agenda are viewed and propagandized as the terrorists. Seeing on video a man from FEMA call the Founding Fathers terrorists does not surpise me one bit since they had originally rebelled against the Crown only to become tyrants themselves. Is it surprising to see the linkage of the word ‘terrorist’ to ‘Confederate soldier’? One man’s rebel is another man’s terrorist.

With the British subject, Imposter-In-Chief, Barak Obama on the throne in America I expect to see a continual rise in the propaganda about the number of domestic terrorists in this country who happen to be Christians or any other group of conscience who rebels at King Obama and his merry minions in the District of Criminals and their agenda to ‘socialize’ this country into what the Crown originally had at the Jamestown colony - an agricultural commune where every one can be equally miserable.


221 posted on 04/12/2010 6:08:43 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Ole Okie
Yep. Both sides got some pretty hard heads.

And as long as Kansas plays Missouri once in football and twice a year in basketball the Border War will live on.

222 posted on 04/12/2010 6:17:51 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: rockrr

“Setback in his first command” is a masterpiece of understatement! Judged solely on his performance in the Seven Years War, the colonies would have been better off without him.


223 posted on 04/12/2010 6:18:57 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

I did crack up at that one. Add the “Grant owned slaves” part and the whole thing was a side-splitter. Got to hand it to her, she’s dredging up myths I haven’t seen in a while.


224 posted on 04/12/2010 6:19:20 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Maybe 145 years from tonight, some people on a forum somewhere will be commenting on where the Tea Party got their “BS”.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0412/Justice-Stevens-ObamaCare-and-the-Constitution.-Is-federal-power-now-unlimited

Get your heads out of the past and look at the parallels to the *now*; federalism in overdrive

Commercial’s over.

Bye.

225 posted on 04/12/2010 6:23:18 PM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: Non-Sequitur
"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission and offer my sword to the other side"
                        -- Ulysses S. Grant

226 posted on 04/12/2010 6:29:59 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: Non-Sequitur

By our standards, about 95% of the white population of the US were racists.


227 posted on 04/12/2010 6:30:09 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: stop_fascism
By our standards, about 95% of the white population of the US were racists.

If judged by our standards I'd say your 95% figure is a tad low.

228 posted on 04/12/2010 6:35:01 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va

Many experts believe that American English is closer to the pronunciation used at the time of the Revolution. Perhaps if Washington had failed, the Brits wouldn’t talk so funny today.


229 posted on 04/12/2010 6:37:10 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: central_va

“...As soon as slavery fired upon the flag it was felt, we all felt, even those who did not object to slaves, that slavery must be destroyed. We felt that it was a stain to the Union that men should be bought and sold like cattle.” — Ulysses S. Grant, 1878


230 posted on 04/12/2010 6:37:17 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Salamander
Maybe 145 years from tonight, some people on a forum somewhere will be commenting on where the Tea Party got their “BS”.

Only if Lost Causers are writing their history.

231 posted on 04/12/2010 6:38:02 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: central_va

You and your Southron BS!

Begone, racist varlet!

Give Grant a break...he was probably totally snockered when he said that.

;]

[and ‘House’ was really good tonight]


232 posted on 04/12/2010 6:41:10 PM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Oh, yeah.
*13 years later* he “gets religion”.

Talk about revisionist BS.


233 posted on 04/12/2010 6:44:13 PM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: central_va

It is doubtful that Grant said that. He made many statements to the contrary.


234 posted on 04/12/2010 6:44:59 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: Salamander

One of JEB Stuarts men, I think it was Major Randolph, was holding him hostage when the Wino made that remark.


235 posted on 04/12/2010 6:45:53 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: central_va

Huh.

He always struck me as more of a heavy bourbon drinker.


236 posted on 04/12/2010 6:49:38 PM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: Salamander

The two most famous “drunks” of the 19th century, Poe and Grant, actually drank very little. In both cases, a small amount of alcohol was poison to them.


237 posted on 04/12/2010 6:53:39 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: Salamander
Talk about revisionist BS.

OK, how about this?

"I was never an abolitionist, not even what could be called anti-slavery, but I try to judge fairly and honestly and it became patent in my mind early in the rebellion that the North and South could never be at peace with each other except as one nation, and that without slavery. As anxious as I am to see peace established, I would not therefore be willing to see any settlement until the question is forever settled."-- Ulysses Grant 1863 letter to Elihu Washburne

Better? Oh and by the way, you wouldn't happen to have a date and source for that Grant quote you've been tossing round, have you?

238 posted on 04/12/2010 6:54:05 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stop_fascism
"The right of revolution is an inherent one. When people are oppressed by their government, it is a natural right they enjoy to relieve themselves of the oppression, if they are strong enough, either by withdrawal from it, or by overthrowing it and substituting a government more acceptable."
     -- U.S. Grant

239 posted on 04/12/2010 6:55:42 PM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: Non-Sequitur

‘Oh and by the way, you wouldn’t happen to have a date and source for that Grant quote you’ve been tossing round, have you? “

Okay..now you’re really getting creepy.

The post to which I replied contained a quote *you* offered.

Don’t *you* know where you got it?


240 posted on 04/12/2010 6:57:28 PM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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