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Why the iPad will Flop
Seeking Alpha ^ | 04/04/2010 | Alex Cook

Posted on 04/07/2010 3:12:46 AM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: RegulatorCountry
What is being merged, here?

I don't know. P T Barnum and suckers' money?

41 posted on 04/07/2010 6:20:13 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: RegulatorCountry

“LOL! I am in marketing. I’ve used Macs since the eighties. Say what you will about Jobs, as I said, he can be a control freak and a jerk. But, he does have a guiding philosophy, has always followed it, and it’s plainly visible in the products from Apple under his tenure. This one is no exception.”

OS X and iPod. What else? The design of the Mac, sure. But it has gone through 3 major revisions since Jobs returned. Was that marketing or R&D?


42 posted on 04/07/2010 6:20:18 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: RightOnline
Look at competing products; tell me that they are all wrong.

Apple is poised to sell more tablet computers this year than have sold in the last decade. Tell me, what is is those competing products are doing right?

43 posted on 04/07/2010 6:20:57 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: raybbr
Does all the media, songs mostly, have to come through I-tunes due to RMA restrictions? I have never bought an Ipod for that reason.

???????

If burn CDs to my computer, put them in iTunes, then download the songs from iTunes to my iPhone or iPod. I have never bought music from Apple. I have copied music from cassette tapes that I have put on my iPod.

44 posted on 04/07/2010 6:23:14 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: RightOnline

I thought the same thing when Mac dumped the floppy disc. Apple was right.


45 posted on 04/07/2010 6:24:26 AM PDT by Tribune7 (Only stupid, racists people support Obama.)
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To: SoothingDave

Fine, you keep buying cheap netbooks. They clearly serve you and your needs well.


46 posted on 04/07/2010 6:29:11 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Leonard210
Was that marketing or R&D?

Both, clearly. What would the Win world do, without Apple's form factor to copy?

47 posted on 04/07/2010 6:32:33 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

You still haven’t given a straight answer. What is so different about having content available on this tablet as opposed to my netbook?


48 posted on 04/07/2010 6:32:38 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave

Having content will be no different. The source of that content, how it is delivered, how the end user interacts with that content and where, will be different. Or not, depending upon the wants and needs of that end user.


49 posted on 04/07/2010 6:51:47 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Swordmaker

I think so, too...


50 posted on 04/07/2010 6:52:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Form factor? If they copied the iMac G3, I missed it. And the iMac G4. Or even the iMac G5. I don’t follow Windows stuff so I’ll have to assume that they’ve all got Intel iMac-like all-in-one’s now.

The only thing I look to Apple for is their OS. The new iMacs are beautiful. (Have one.) And the MacBook unibodies? Superb. The iPod was a clear win. But all have been evolving into these great designs. And some of the stuff that preceded them (I take them apart) was horrible, brainless, insane. Would that they had cracked a case on some Windows boxes.

When you have only 4 products and you’ve been reworking them for 10 or 15 years, you had better be learning something from your mistakes.


51 posted on 04/07/2010 6:56:10 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: Leonard210

With every successive wave of new product from Apple, the industry as a whole has been altered, ever since the first, “gumdrop” iMac. We still see jewel toned translucent plastics, over a decade later, across all manner of consumer products. Titanium PowerBook? Same. Aluminum tower? Same, but plastic. iPod? Same. iPhone? Same.


52 posted on 04/07/2010 7:04:00 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: SoothingDave

1. Not having to lug around extra space & mass of physical components you don’t need to read books, watch movies, surf web, hear music, browse pictures, etc. So long as you’re connected (wireless), you don’t need keyboard, removable media, ports, origami, etc.

2. Replacing much of that space & mass with battery. 11+ hour battery life vs. what? 3-5? Content is more available when the battery isn’t dead.

3. Instant on. Push button, go.

4. Touchscreen. Swipe screen to turn a page. Touch an item to access it. No coordination of trying to touch/type/poke somewhere else to activate what you’re looking at or emulate a natural movement. This is a bigger deal than most people give touchscreens credit for: reduce the cognitive cycle time and you’ve got more time to think about other stuff.

5. Weight. Ask a backpacker: given time, each extra ounce is just another pound.

0. The whole of the above (and other refinements) is greater than the sum of the parts. You can nitpick each point, but the aggregate just makes for a superior content experience.

-1. Hey, if your netbook works for you and you’re happy with it, great.


53 posted on 04/07/2010 7:08:46 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: Swordmaker

As a business model, extracting $150 million in a day is fantastic. It remains to be seen just how much of a game changer the iPad will be (or not). I haven’t seen one yet.


54 posted on 04/07/2010 7:22:08 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Deepest South

For some reason, many FReepers equate anything from Apple == Liberal. I guess the company probably *is* liberal, but so is Microsoft, so ... *shrug* I dunno, what other choice is there? Red Star Linux? *BSD?

BTW I run Win XP, 7, OS X, Solaris, and Debian Linux on my various machines. Different platforms do different things well. I’m sure this will be the case with the iPad and any other tablets that are developed if it takes off.


55 posted on 04/07/2010 7:23:35 AM PDT by Betis70 (Never Forget)
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To: ctdonath2

Netbooks are pretty light and compact, plus they fold to protect the screen. Battery life you may have a point, but how many situations are people really in for 11 hours without a power source?

Windows can hibernate and turn on in a relatively short time.

And I have never had “cognitive cycle time” difficulties using a mouse.


56 posted on 04/07/2010 7:23:42 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: RegulatorCountry

I see some obvious knockoffs but I also see some Windows laptops that are in many ways better than MacBooks. The iPhone? Yes. They set the standard on that. The iPod, a forerunner of the iPhone, was a great compilation product. But don’t forget AppleTV. AirPort Base Stations? Sure, I want to pay twice as much for a wireless router. AirTunes rather than an FM transmitter?

Love my Macs, but everything Apple is not “magical”.


57 posted on 04/07/2010 7:37:31 AM PDT by Leonard210 (Tagline? We don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: RightOnline
Look at competing products; tell me that they are all wrong.

Apple ditched the floppy drive while others still offered it. Apple ditched the old serial and parallel connectors in favor of USB and Firewire, and the others still offered RS-232 and parallel. Apple ditched CRTs for LCDs way before the competition.

Because of its unique position, Apple can afford to drop legacy technology and legacy ways of thinking. OTOH, the iPad still has USB, just not in the form of that overly-large USB plug.

58 posted on 04/07/2010 8:05:55 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: SoothingDave

To elaborate on my “cognitive cycle time” comment...

Mouse:
-5. Find mouse.
-4. Find other end of mouse tail.
-3. Plug it in.
-2. Find table to put mouse on.
-1. Put mouse on table.
0. See icon.
1. Identify mouse location.
2. Put hand on mouse.
3. Wiggle mouse to attract eye to cursor.
4. Coordinate motion of mouse with motion of cursor.
5. Move mouse, correcting for errors in cursor position.
6. Stop moving mouse.
7. Click mouse button.

Touchscreen.
0. See icon.
1. Touch it.

Oh, sure, no big deal. Sure I’m overstating it.
Did you know one reason that Chinese are so good at math relative to Americans is that the human mind can process Chinese words for numbers faster than the English words? Tiny improvements in cycle times add up. While you’re looking for the cursor, I’ve already touched & activated the icon.


59 posted on 04/07/2010 8:29:29 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: SoothingDave
plus they fold to protect the screen

Turns out that hinge is the reason I need a new computer. The display's flexicable running thru that hinge is breaking. Same thing happened to my folding cellphone. I'm learning the hard way that "folding to protect the screen" is the wrong solution, as it introduces a new and susceptible point of failure.

60 posted on 04/07/2010 8:33:07 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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