Almost Prophetic: de Tocqueville and Hayek on Democratic Despotism

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True. I presume in a western democracy, it’ll will start one way, the Huxley nightmare way, and as Hayek himself noted in his book, once established, there is nothing that can prevent it from becoming something else, a George Orwell nightmare. All it takes to morph, to “change”, is a power-grabbing, conniving, reptilian, despot. Are we there yet, time will tell.

Devolving from vapid children... to dumb sheep...to near eloi and morlocks?

Not literally feeding on them,...

But a still an parasitic relationship of a ruling clique and cud chewing cattle

Is the average dem voter and there leaders that far from it now?

We see them cannibalize us and the country for fodder to feed “their” herds as we speak

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God plays no role in libertarianism, therefore it can’t be successful over a long term basis.

Well put my Friend, and very profound indeed.

If we are not careful, the left will exploit that weakness of the Teaparty movement and allow us to destroy it from within.

That is why we conservatives need to be careful not to push the Libertarian too far too fast on the social Christian values front, lest we marginalize them. History has proven that it is the Libertarian minded portion of the right that will stay home and not vote if they feel they have been taken advantage of, and the left knows this.

That is why we conservatives need to be careful not to push the Libertarian too far too fast on the social Christian values front, lest we marginalize them.

What's to marginalize? Their social platform is even more insane than Democrats. Anyone that follows the "If it feels good do it" Libertarian Party isn't even close to acknowledging the laws of God. While conservatives and Libertarians (note the Big L, as there is little to no difference between what they call Big L and little l L/libertarians) might be joining forces in the Tea Party movement for economic reasons, our social policies are eventually bound to clash.

I'll continue to spread the truth; if Libertarians want to jump on board, great, if not, they too are the enemy of our nation that was founded on the principles of Christianity.

There are as many flavors of libertarians as there are types of conservatives. There are Christian libertarians, objectivist libertarians, constituional libertarians, dopertarians, Kill-the-Fed libertarians, official Libertarians and libertine libertarians to name a few.

As one that has offered critical comment to those espousing that tradition over the years, I can say you might find many you hold common ground with if you are a typical conservative.

The rationalism of an ideologue libertarian is a good part of the seperation and it often is expressed in athesitic rhetoric — but there are pricipled beleivers here that describe themselves as libertarian. Likewise, there are agnostic or other flavors of conservatives that I can likewise find common ground with if their morality falls into the “Enduring Moral Order” class and stays away from situational ethics.

There are as many flavors of libertarians as there are types of conservatives. There are Christian libertarians, objectivist libertarians, constituional libertarians, dopertarians, Kill-the-Fed libertarians, official Libertarians and libertine libertarians to name a few.

I've spent the last few years researching the various types of L/libertarianism, and based on that research, will spend the rest of my life EXPOSING the fraudulent movement.

As one that has offered critical comment to those espousing that tradition over the years, I can say you might find many you hold common ground with if you are a typical conservative.

On social issues, next to none. On economic issues, while on the surface it appears that conservatives and L/libertarians (I'll drop the little l, they're all Big L Libertarians whether they want to admit it or not) might agree on certain things, it's the FOUNDATION of the free market economy where we disagree (something about Ludwig Von Mises being a Humanist makes me feel a bit uneasy).

The rationalism of an ideologue libertarian is a good part of the seperation and it often is expressed in athesitic rhetoric — but there are pricipled beleivers here that describe themselves as libertarian.

I'll stick with the quote from Thomas A. Droleskey in his article entitled "Showing Libertarianisms True Biases:

"Those who embrace libertarianism, in other words, believe that there is no ultimate authority to which men and their civil society must answer other than themselves and the words of their own constitutions and laws. Men are "free," and there should be as few restrictions on "freedom" as possible."
http://www.christorchaos.com/ShowingLibertarianismsTrueBiases.html