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The "Center Mass" Myth and Ending a Gunfight
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| 12 February 2010
| Jim Higginbotham
Posted on 03/04/2010 9:31:50 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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Long, but great reading for those who seriously carry and who give real thought to the process.
To: Erik Latranyi
That may be true, but if you’re not a good shot and don’t shoot a lot (most people don’t), if you aim at the center mass at least you’re probably going to hit something.
If you can’t follow up well, you might have time to seek cover and try again. The perfect is the enemy of the good...that is, anybody who can shoot and hit something is way ahead of somebody who can’t, but if they’re “aiming for perfection,” they may not be able to do even the basic stuff (stopping/slowing the attacker). I say this as a lousy shot who has only had target success by aiming at the center mass.
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:36:29 AM PST
by
livius
To: Erik Latranyi
“Shooting at center mass in order to stop him” is what you tell the cops and judge.
I would prefer to shoot between the eyes.
To: Erik Latranyi
Good in theory, but center of mass recommendations really are about the easiest way to hit your target in the heat of the moment, with minimal time to aim. Even being shot with a .22 would have a psychological impact on an attacker, even though it may do minimal physical damage compared to other options.
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:37:59 AM PST
by
mnehring
To: livius
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:38:39 AM PST
by
mnehring
To: Erik Latranyi
If you are fortunate, the bad guys will use that stupid 90 degree firing (butt parallel to the ground) hold that they think looks so cool.
I am pretty sure you can’t even hit a 12 story building with that approach. Unless more frequent weapon handlers know more...?
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:41:32 AM PST
by
freedumb2003
( Tagline lost -- anyone seen it?)
To: Erik Latranyi
I’d rather just perfect my shooting skills and go for the head shot. Much harder to survive those.
Problem with centre mass aiming is that criminals, both private and especially those working for the state, can wear body armor.
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:42:09 AM PST
by
Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
(We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
To: goseminoles
I would prefer to shoot between the eyes.Then you know nothing about self-defense.
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:42:35 AM PST
by
Erik Latranyi
(Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
To: Erik Latranyi
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confirmed incidents in which people have been shot center mass up to 55 times with 9mm JHP ammunition (the subject was hit 106 times, but 55 of those hits were ruled by the coroner to be each lethal in and of themselves) before he went down.----I find that a little hard to believe---
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:43:00 AM PST
by
rellimpank
(--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
To: mnehring; Markos33
Best place to shoot - whatever you can hit.
Best gun to use - whatever you’ve got.
(Bad guys don’t usually wait for target analysis/acquisition and weapon selection.)
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:43:42 AM PST
by
shibumi
("..... then we will fight in the shade.")
To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I’d rather just perfect my shooting skills and go for the head shot.Another poster who knows nothing about self-defense.
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:44:13 AM PST
by
Erik Latranyi
(Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
To: rellimpank
I find that a little hard to believeFine. I just hope you or your family don't die because you refuse to believe something that conflicts with your Hollywood-induced paradigm of gunfights.
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:45:31 AM PST
by
Erik Latranyi
(Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
To: Erik Latranyi
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:46:16 AM PST
by
Lurker
(The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
To: Erik Latranyi
Another poster who knows nothing about self-defense. What are you babbling about? You think you're some sort of expert on the subject, because you think we should shoot crooks in one particular location?
Seriously, dude, take your meds.
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:46:21 AM PST
by
Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
(We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
To: shibumi
Best place to shoot - whatever you can hit. Best gun to use - whatever you’ve got. (Bad guys don’t usually wait for target analysis/acquisition and weapon selection.)You clearly understand gunfights, unlike some posters around here who have Hollywood-induced visions of what it would be like.
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:46:48 AM PST
by
Erik Latranyi
(Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
To: freedumb2003
the bad guys will use that stupid 90 degree firing (butt parallel to the ground) hold that they think looks so cool.Where in the world did that come from and why the heck did the person who first pushed that on the public think it was in any way either intimidating or effective?
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:46:52 AM PST
by
mnehring
To: freedumb2003
The “parallel to the ground” hold works quite well - if you are lying on your side, parallel to the ground.
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:47:47 AM PST
by
shibumi
("..... then we will fight in the shade.")
To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
You think you're some sort of expert on the subject, because you think we should shoot crooks in one particular location?You obviously have never taken a self-defense class and learned the realities of surviving a gunfight. If you had the least notion of the subject, you would not have originally posted that you would practice and go for a head shot. It clearly demonstrates a juvenile and dangerous attitude.
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:48:55 AM PST
by
Erik Latranyi
(Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
To: Erik Latranyi
If you are aiming at a liberal, adjust lower for the decreased mass inside the head which effectively drops the center mass down to the rectal area, where most of a liberal’s mass is concentrated.
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:50:40 AM PST
by
oldbill
To: freedumb2003
If you are fortunate, the bad guys will use that stupid 90 degree firing (butt parallel to the ground) hold that they think looks so cool.One gang-banger utilizing that technique was found at the hospital because the spent case ejected right into his eye, burning his cornea!
Divine justice at its best!
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posted on
03/04/2010 9:51:27 AM PST
by
Erik Latranyi
(Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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