Posted on 03/01/2010 5:22:33 AM PST by reaganator
It's time to allow people to be poor.
Let the unemployment run out. People will then take lesser paying jobs they do not want or go directly on government assistance, welfare.
They can sell the extra stuff they have, they can cut back to try to make it. No smoking, drinking or drugging, no vacations, no eating out, no going out on week-ends, no extra cable channels, no new clothes, and much more.
If the government is going to pay people not to work, they are not going to work! How many extensions have there been? Three? Four? When is it time for people to move to the welfare lines?
I live in Ohio. There have been many unemployment extensions here.
Ugh,, ???? If an old truck, a few cloths and a crockpot is easy, then, yea, I guess so, You in jail?
I noticed you didn’t mention having to care for a family or deal with taking care of a home. You a moron?
My girlfriend’s sister has been collecting unemployment for over 2 years. Collecting the max, last year she had an opportunity to accept a position that paid $60,000 per year, did not want the position. If the checks were not coming in, she would have taken the job. No doubt.
A proud American, I admire you.
Nope, I decided to wait until I could afford a family.
I’m not telling people to go on welfare, that would be one of their options when the unemployment extensions are allowed to run out. Many will take 2 or 3 low paying jobs they do not want like my father did when he was raising 12 children while Mother stayed home and ran the house.
What a man, and what a woman!
I am an unemployed IT project manager with all the required certifications. I have made almost 600 contacts for a new position over the past 12 months with no offers so far. Right now, even with unemployment benefits, I have used up all my savings and I am now using equity in my house to pay for necessities like utilities, food, and mortgage.
You obviously do not understand that unemployment is paid by employers and is funded in part by a portion of the salary you earn. It is part of the “overhead costs” a company incurs when you are employed by them. It is NOT “welfare” as you erroneously claim. As someone who is needs unemployment right now I find your accusation that these benefits are “welfare” to be very inappropriate and misinformed.
That I am now competing for positions against 10 or more equally qualified professionals is an indication that the BHO has so ruined the business climate in this country that no business is interested in expanding or investing in their IT systems to garner a larger market share or improve internal operations.
It sounds like you are still working. If so good for you. But if that ever changes you will quickly learn that unemployment is a necessary benefit (NOT welfare) you will need to see you through to the next job you can find.
Do you really think my tone is the issue here?
I’m not lobbying for votes.
Lower the corporate taxes. The high taxes and goverment restrictions are why businesses move their jobs overseas.
Both of you make good points.
However, just for the record, a single employer never pays the full or even a significant portion of what a single longterm unemployment recipient will receive. Those funds come from the pool of the total contributions and when that's empty the taxpayers fund unemployment.
The highest rate an employer will pay for an employee in California is 6.5% of the first $7,000. That's about one week's unemployment pay.
After three or four unemployment extensions I believe it is another form of government assistance. Obviously, you did not allow that to happen. Are you being obtuse?
Pretty short sighted. Consider, 17-22% unemployment (depending upon who you talk to, and where you live), now without even unemployment coming in, these folk all lose their homes, cars and everything they own - through no fault of their own.
Lets assume you own your home, so what do you suppose your home value will be when every 6th house in your city gets foreclosed and hits the auction block. What do you suppose your home value will be? Do you think you'll be able to give your home away if you to, lose your job? How many tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars will you have to take to the table, so you can sell your house and take a job in another state?
Now, with the city losing the revenue of all those foreclosed houses, what do you suppose is going to happen to your property taxes? Naturally, this will be a vicious cycle, as the local taxes increase to make up for the lost revenue due to the collapsing housing market; local businesses will fail that just adds to the whole mess.
Some of your local costs just cannot be cut; it will always cost some thing to keep the roads up, haul garbage away, provide clean water and sanitation. Fire and police are pretty much a fixed expense as well; as are your hospitals and gov't buildings.
Meanwhile, we are giving money to countries that hate us, that want us all dead - yet our politicans are giving away Billions in foreign aide.
Lean to be poor is about as practical an answer as telling a drowning man to learn to swim. It solves nothing, but makes you look and sound like an ass.
I have read that in Texas the maximum length of unemployment benefits is 25 weeks. (based on past earnings)
You did not answer my question about what you do for a living. I think this information might explain your attitude.
You are focusing on something that is minor in relation to the overall trainwreck we are witnessing.
Government, not private company employees, must be downsized. There is no other path out of this mess.
Less regulation, less taxes and more honesty.
That's the way its operated here in Florida for the past 14 years I have been an employer. I haven't a clue as to what the other States do to fund their UECF.
My 4thQ 2009 tax rate was .0012. In my company $7,000.00 is met in 1stQ and all subsequent quarters nothing is owed. I consider the amount to be rather minuscule compared to all the other government taxes I have to pay.
No your tone is not the issue, but it is very revealing about you. You never did answer my question about what you did for a living.
The federal government keeps passing extensions. I'm curious. Why don't these extensions apply to Texas?
Unfortunately it isn’t the same world you or I were children in.
During the depression my great grandmother’s first husband left one day to go grab some day labor and never returned. He got into the little stash of cash she had and bought a train ticket out of town and she never saw him again. He left her with a small farm and 5 kids.
She survived by taking in more laundry, sewing, cooking, and boarding teachers who also worked on the farm. If you try that these days the IRS will show up at your door looking for their cut and leave you worse off than before.
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