Posted on 02/19/2010 5:51:27 AM PST by wizard1961
If BHO is removed from office because he is not a natural citizen, he then becomes a race martyr and Biden becomes president. Hillary probably becomes VP. How would this help conservatives in 2010 and 2012 -- it would hurt us, right?
If the Lewinsky debacle had removed Clinton, Gore would have become President and cruised to his own electorial victory. This would have been a disaster.
I agree there is a puzzle here. I agree there is free speech & everyone has a right to pursue this. My question: is there some angle here that I've missed that makes this smart?
We have some serious electoral flaws that need to be fixed.
In some states where Calero wasn’t allowed on the ballot he had a “stand in” that was apparently legal. I don’t understand how that works but it was apparently allowed.
Calero may be a socialist, a former illegal alien, a drug dealer and Lord knows what else but he was right about the standards not being evenly applied.
American exceptionalism resides on the promise of those sworn to uphold the constitution and law to keep the most rich and powerful within the boundries of the law regardless of position or politics. Yes, we enforce the law with the most powerful!
Why should joe schmoe obey the law (pay his taxes, be honest about his history on job applications, etc.) if the leaders of this country don’t - and no one cares? Why should cops be honest in enforcing the law if the President can get away with openly breaking the law and corrupting the judcial system with perjury?
Why should a jury convict a schlub down the street for not paying his taxes when the Treasury Secretary and Congressman Rangle don’t have to pay their taxes? This is how unchecked corruption at the top works like termites through the whole society. Forcing the most powerful to work within the limits of the law is absolutely the most important law enforcement priority in a free society.
zot
Enforcing the Constitution and requiring the office of President be held only by someone meeting the Constitutionally defined qualifications is the most fundamental place to start. But you and a small platoon of astroturfers working FR daily seek to mischaracterize, misdirect, and obfuscate the truth in any way you can. You are despicable people who do not deserve to continue as free citizens of the nation you are defrauding.
Instead of calling out “Kenya” and demanding a birth certificate for BHO, I'd rather see a demand that ALL current Senators, Representitives, Presidents, and Vice Presidents (federally elected officials) publish their higher educational records including scholarship applications, military records, birth records, and so on.
We could include appointed judges and cabinet members, too.
“Holder or Axelgreasy send you out to plant mischief, n00b?”
No. Did you have a specific complaint?
Not a bad idea in the overall strategy.
How high do you have that bar raised? I would call this pretty definitive:
Benjamin Franklins (a signer of our Constitution) letter to Charles W.F. Dumas, December 1775
I am much obliged by the kind present you have made us of your edition of Vattel. It came to us in good season, when the circumstances of a rising state make it necessary frequently to consult the Law of Nations. Accordingly, that copy which I kept (after depositing one in our own public library here, and send the other to the College of Massachusetts Bay, as you directed) has been continually in the hands of the members of our congress, now sitting, who are much pleased with your notes and preface, and have entertained a high and just esteem for their author?
However, if it is proven that there was a conspiracy / cover-up by top Democratic officials to allow an unqualified candidate to become president. It would cripple the Democratic party for hours.
Minor correction. They don't care if he is a non-citizen.
Well...Gee!...If it is soooooooo etheral and soooooo unimportant for you why do I see your tag name so frequently on these threads?
Why are **YOU** wasting **YOUR** time? Don't you have more important things to be doing?
See post #56 above, n00b. You’ve presumed to be âone of us freepersâ with your smarmy posts, yet you have tried to arrange a thread in such a way that you and a small platoon of poltroons can marginalize those demanding the office of President be held only by someone meeting the Constitutionally defined qualifications. You’re just another operative sent to work the Internet discussion sites for your deceitful masters. Despicable
You joined in January of this year to lecture us on this?
Congratulations on your inflated self-image.
Yes, that is needed. That would be in keeping with existing standards for applicants to non-elected government positions. The question is how do you get to the point where there is impetus to create such legislation? It hasn't happened yet, so unless there is some sort of mass outcry, or a crisis (in this case, a Constitutional crisis), such a law would probably never be written.
IBTZ
Not all those asking for documentation sound crazy, but the media will perpetually find the most embarrassing examples to make Tea parties and Conservatives look irrational.
The media is efficient at creating wedges to drive the casual independent voter away from us. As Beck & Coulter deride “birthers” I can recognize the FACT that “we” have problems to sort out. This is a forum, and if you think my asking about whether this topic helps us or hurts us is some kind of traitorism... do you also question the sincerity of Ann Coulter and Glenn Beck?
Your anger at me is beyond my understanding.
“You joined in January of this year to lecture us on this?”
I really could not care less about your sense of time. Sorry.
“Youre just another operative”
No, I am not.
Anyone who does not share your opinion is an enemy operative?
Wow. You must live in an interesting world.
These DOJ operatives are like the coward in the fox hole of freedom. They stab their buddy in the back and surrender to tyranny.
They fail to understand or heed the warnings of Yuri Bezmenov. The very first people lined up an shot were the Useful Idiots.
These Useful Idiots working the DOJ assigned message boards will be the first people crushed by the bus they will be thrown under when they are seen to be a threat and no longer useful to their handlers.
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