Posted on 02/07/2010 3:52:56 AM PST by Scanian
C. J. Box writes current-day westerns about Wyoming, and he has funny stuff about how people from outside the state dress trying to look western and affect phoney western accents. Another dead giveaway is that they say cy-o-tee when everybody knows it’s coy-ote.
The folks from the pine barrens definitely talk different. They are old families and have an old NJ accent that I can’t capture—haven’t heard enough of it. The pine barren kids are identifiable by their absence from school as soon as the hunting season starts. Don’t call them pineys; in fact pine barrens is probably also politically incorrect now.
A damn shame so much of the Pine Barrens have become suburbanized, or filled with Senior Citizen communities.
English county names and other place names, also family surnames, you just leave out half the syllables and you're fine
And they lost their excellent drinking water.
My neighbor is originally from NYC, and even though she spent many years in NH she still has what I would fondly call a typical Jewish NY accent/manner of expression. I lived for several years in NY and picked up a bit of an accent, much has faded from living in the South for a long time though. I love talking to my neighbor, it’s such a pleasure to my ears to hear a NY accent and not a southern one for a change lol.
I love “El Eje Cafetero” myself, more for the climate than for the Spanish. If it weren’t for a chronic health problem I have, I’d look to retire in Armenia or Pereira. But because of the “broken US health system,(s/o)” I’ll be here for a while, anyway.
Mom was actually born in Asturias, which is near Galicia, and spent most of her childhood in Cuba. In Cuba, anybody like that is called a “galleguito” - they don’t seem to differentiate much.
They all moved to Rio Rancho, NM.
Everybody is speaking the “black accent” now, even Obama and Hilary when it suits their needs (although neither of them does it very well, it’s funny when a black guy like Obama, who is actually much more like a nerdy white, tries to do the black lingo, he sounds ridiculous). It’s amusing (or maybe sickening, depending on your point of view) that white people feel the need to imitate the black lingo (as well as the black lifestyle) this seemed to first show itself on shows like Jerry Springer but now has become mainstream. America’s best weapon is not nuclear, it is exporting the black rap gangsta culture to the young people of foreign countries, making them a bunch of mindless idiots. If you want to bring down countries like Iran, North Korea, Cuba, China, etc, just inject the black gangsta rap culture into their young people and they will implode from within.
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The East Coast is referred to as the "R-less corridor" by linguists, and other coastal cities have accents with features in common with New York, like Boston and Charleston, S.C. Those cities "were settled around the same time, and the speakers came from a certain place" — South London — "using a certain type of British English," Becker says.
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Do you think that dialects and accents in the U.K. have been going through similar changes as what the article refers to as occurring in New York?
Funny you bring that up...
Back in the ‘50’s, when rock-n-roll was becoming popular, there were certain preachers and “moralists” who warned that if white teenagers got involved in R&R, they would adopt the “negro” culture, and society would suffer by lowering it’s standards to that of the ghetto and the entire nation would become “negro-ized.”
They were right about the downward direction of society but I’d blame liberals and the welfare state - specifically LBJ and the “Great Society” - more than any type of music. Tastes come and go but dependency becomes a habit.
yes I do .most certainly.
In Salfor when I was growing up the generation before me spoke with a more Lancashire accent and still do.
That is to say they would speak more things like up yonder and have more of a drawl.
Now I have a more of a salford /manc innner city accent and now the kids have more of a scouse accent where there’s a k is more pronounced.
As for the R, well in Manchester it is known that we do not pronounce them like other parts of the UK, for instance I manchesta , new orda.
When I had to live in Boston there were folks saying in Boston that I was getting a Boston accent when in fact we never said the R in the first place
that is about the best I can describe the change
In London or east London the pakisatni’s there have changed the accent to more of a pakistani cockney accent which is quite bizarre to how a Englishman cockney speaks
the southern accent on a woman is the most sexiest accent in the world I think.
My wife is from Boston but I got her down here and hopefully soon she looses that Boston accent and gets that beautiful southern drawl
agreed
there’s many areas now on local TV where they have brought down yankees and a southern accent is not heard.
not sure if they want the accent or because we’re not too liberal enough to cover the local news
also I think that accents are fading due to more and more folks moving on mass.
for instance in FL in the southern part there is hardly a southern accent due to the mass migration by yankees where as the part of FL I am in St Augustine is much more southern and so is the north part of the state, though some gated communities which popped up over the last 10 years have seen some migration into this area now too .
Sadly I say that as I hope this part of the state keeps it southern charm as best as it can and not become another south FL which is all manicured, , all the same look alike ,all houses are 5 ft from each other with no space or garden gated communities.
Ah. Well described; I think I know what you mean. Yes, some do speak that way. Interesting the subtle variations you can pick up even among people who speak “standard” English. In college I took a course that was sort of a combination of phonetics, linguistics, and the history of the English language. A few times the professor went around the room and had everyone pronounce a given word, such as “caught.” There must have been seven or eight distinct variations.
I don’t care about a brooklyn accent, to me there is nothing funnier than a Yinzer Yuppie.
And those who know what I’m talking about agree.
I thought all “Yinzer Yuppies” ended up in Brooklyn anyway (Park Slope, to be precise), as Squirrel Hill isn’t big enough to hold all of them (and the old Jewish families don’t want them around anyhow).
Natives of Newark, NJ, whether they be Philip Roth, Sarah Vaughn (RIP) or my father, say "Nork." The Delaware pronunciation is the closest to the real thing as both cities were named "New Ark" by the respective religious communities that founded them.
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