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Woman killed in text messaging accident
KTAR.com ^ | 12/27/2009 | Elizabeth Shell

Posted on 12/27/2009 3:30:09 PM PST by Saije

Vinnie Sorce knew something was wrong when he saw a police officer pull into the driveway. He immediately sent his three children, two boys from a previous marriage and a little girl with his fiancee, to their rooms so he could talk to the officer outside.

"Time just froze," he said.

Sorce's fiancee, Stacey Stubbs, had headed to Phoenix for a doctor's appointment.

She never made it.

A Ford pickup truck hit Stubbs' rented PT Cruiser head-on on an isolated stretch of road near Lake Pleasant, killing her instantly. The other driver, Ashley Miller, 19, was thrown from the truck and later pronounced dead at a hospital.

Sorce later went to the hospital to identify Stubbs' body.

"You could see her nose was broken, and her fingers were all crushed, like she had gripped the wheel," Sorce said.

A familiar pain flooded back. Sorce had lost his first wife, Lisa, to cancer eight years before.

"The hardest thing I thought I'd ever have to do was tell the boys their mom had died," he said. "All of a sudden I had to do it again."

A few days later he was enraged to hear that Miller had been text messaging on her cell phone. Based on a message Miller sent a minute before the 911 call reporting the accident, police surmised that she became distracted and crossed the center line.

Crashes blamed on cell phone use and text messaging as well as recent studies outlining the dangers of the practice have helped build interest around the country in restrictions.

As of late 2009, six states - California, Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Washington - and Washington, D.C., required drivers to use a hands-free device, and 19 states and Washington, D.C., prohibited text messaging behind the wheel.

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To: Saije

Woman killed in text messaging accident

The title is misleading, it’s not an accident when the driver was texting.


41 posted on 12/27/2009 4:32:32 PM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: chris37
Good rant ... on the phones, I see mostly women, too. But as for texting ... my own experiences in So Cal are that men text quite a lot. Yesterday a guy probably in his late 20s driving on a five-lane freeway in a zippy late-model Japanese two-seater sports car -- in the far right lane, passing because in many circumstances, the "slow" lane of a moderately busy 4 or 5-lane freeway is faster than the "fast" lane. I was a passenger; our cars were abreast a couple of times, and both times, I could see him texting, keeping one eye on the texter and smiling at whatever he was reading or writing, while keeping the other on the road ... he was going about 75 mph.

*sigh*

42 posted on 12/27/2009 4:39:21 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: driftdiver
IMO people with jammers should be hung.

Don't know
never actually seen one

But the inconvenience of being kicked off the network
Does not even come close to the dangerousness
of poorly attending to the task of
controlling over a ton of steel at expressway speeds
with highly complex maneuvering at unpredictable intervals

I'm a motorcyclist
The most dangerous interaction I've had on the bike
was with a woman talking on a phone
who drifted into my lane
shoving me into the center median at 70 MPH

She never saw me

People talking and texting on phones are a
Clear an Present Danger
to a motorcyclist

I've considered getting a jammer in self defense

43 posted on 12/27/2009 4:39:58 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: henry_reardon
no thanks, we have enough nanny state laws.

Hm. So, according to you, we must sacrifice common sense on the grounds that we have enough "nanny state laws?" Do you likewise believe that DUI laws are "nanny state laws?"

44 posted on 12/27/2009 4:44:09 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Saije

These toys while driving without a hands-free device and especially texting are for idiots; trying to tell the world how important they are running their mouth. I have spent a lot of time traveling in California driving my SUV and can see so many people with the phone jammed up against their ear or texting while driving. What is worse, about every 4th or 5th car I pass or passes me, someone talking on the phone or texting without a hands-free device. Now, if I can see so many people doing this, how is it that the Police, Sheriff or Highway Patrol doesn’t have a clue? This should be treated/handled in the same manner as driving under the influence (DUI)!


45 posted on 12/27/2009 4:44:36 PM PST by ntmxx (I am not so sure about this misdirection!)
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To: biff

Oh, but you see, it’s all about nanny-statism. We mustn’t let common sense intrude when “nanny state laws” would result.... /s


46 posted on 12/27/2009 4:45:56 PM PST by r9etb
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To: twinzmommy

I apologize. You are EXACTLY RIGHT! Men: looking like John Goodman only works for John Goodman. The rest of us must quit this giant gut thing.


47 posted on 12/27/2009 4:52:48 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier (Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security deserve neither!)
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To: Eye of Unk
I just had to sign a new policy that I would never, for any reason, use a cellular phone while I'm driving on Company business under pain of immediate termination.

No warning, no mercy.

The worst violator of the policy you ask? The owner of the business. I've actually had to remind him of it when I don't answer his calls.

48 posted on 12/27/2009 4:53:49 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: HangnJudge; driftdiver
I conduct a significant amount of my working interviews with people who are talking to me via their cel phones while driving, the most convenient times for them to chat with me. The more legitimate, successful, entrepreneurial, and prosperous the person, the more likely he or she is speaking to me from a hands-free device. Almost all volunteer the info that they refuse to speak on a hand-held piece while driving NOT for fear of getting a ticket, but because they know and respect their limitations. I rarely deal with someone speaking from a hand-held phone.

Considering that my livelihood hinges on being able to talk to these people, I should agree with driftdiver that folks with jammers "should be hung" and that "there ought to be a law" is just another invasion of freedom. I halfway agree with the latter -- the decision belongs to the states, not the Feds. But I love too many motorcyclists among my family and friends, and live in the thick of too many very fast freeways and city thoroughfares where speed from stoplight to stoplight easily gets up to 55 and 60 mph, to think jammers wouldn't result in a lot of saved lives over morons too self-absorbed to know and respect their own limitations when they endanger the lives of innocents for the vanity of chatting on a cel phone or texting a message.

49 posted on 12/27/2009 5:03:32 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: chris37

Every time one of these threads comes up some guy gets on with an anecdote about women being the only ones texting. I on the other hand have seen far more men driving big rigs texting.

My husband bought me a big SUV because a woman on a cell phone ran a red light, hit me, and totaled my station wagon some years ago. Riding in that SUV, there are very few cars on the road that scare me now, cell phone or no. But those truck drivers texting and talking on phones frighten me to death.

Unless someone gets to these kids and reminds them they are not the only ones on the road, there are going to be some horrific accidents coming and it won’t just be some women in little cars. The cause will be irresponsible men in 18 wheelers, cement and rock trucks, and logging rigs, what have you. The end result will be catastrophic.


50 posted on 12/27/2009 5:04:00 PM PST by Waryone (II Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Saije

So one driver was distracted by text messaging, what was distracting the other driver that she didn’t get out of the way?


51 posted on 12/27/2009 5:09:08 PM PST by rabidralph (http://www.thealaskafundtrust.com/ http://www.sarahpac.com)
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To: twinzmommy; Engineer_Soldier

I was wondering why he didn’t just get a LOVE SEAT instead of a couch.


52 posted on 12/27/2009 5:09:17 PM PST by pepperdog (As Israel goes, so goes America!)
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To: john drake
I went to a local shopping area yesterday morning and was almost hit several times by people talking on their cell phones. One Obliviot passed me (I was stopped waiting for a car coming in the opposite direction so I could pull into a parking space) and she damn near hit him head on. I saw her pull over in front of a store on down and it was all I could do to keep from going up to her, slapping her on the back of her head and saying “What the *bleep* do you think you are doing driving like that!!??"
53 posted on 12/27/2009 5:12:30 PM PST by proudofthesouth (We are being governed by a Muzzie illegal alien and a corrupt Congress who no longer work for us.)
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To: rabidralph
What was distracting the other driver that she didn’t get out of the way?

Riiiiiiiiiiiight.

Either you have done very little driving of any speed or variety, or you are hands-down the most arrogant and stupid motorist on the road.

54 posted on 12/27/2009 5:13:05 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent.)
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To: Finny
Considering that my livelihood hinges on
being able to talk to these people

I've had a cellphone since 1987
original “Sack Phone”
It was very freeing, as I'm a physician

But I pull off the road and stop,
to talk on the phone.
I hate killing people,
it ruins my day

Having been put at risk for mortal harm
magnifies my concerns about cell phone use in cars

You can always return a call
but a life is nor replaceable

A jammer is a small harm, relatively
But it is illegal...

55 posted on 12/27/2009 5:14:48 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: driftdiver

I would support that but I don’t think I can get it enforced.


56 posted on 12/27/2009 5:15:43 PM PST by packrat35 (Democrat Healthcare is a 9-11 Attack on the Constitution)
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To: HungarianGypsy
I'm an only child with an elderly mother. My cell phone is my connection to her should she ever need anything.

However, I very, very, VERY rarely talk while I'm driving. Its simply not worth it to get involved in an accident.

Oh, and I never, ever text and have no intention of doing so. If something is that important its worth a phone call.

57 posted on 12/27/2009 5:15:44 PM PST by proudofthesouth (We are being governed by a Muzzie illegal alien and a corrupt Congress who no longer work for us.)
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To: driftdiver

naw...give ‘em a chance first chop off their hands.


58 posted on 12/27/2009 5:16:03 PM PST by bjorn14 (Waterboard Obama. See if he knows anything.)
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To: RichInOC

Its called CYA


59 posted on 12/27/2009 5:23:46 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Stacey was his fiancee. How long had they been engaged?

Long enough to produce a kid. I guess that I am just old-fashioned but I cannot understand why anyone would engage in reproduction outside marriage. What a terrible disservice to the child!

As an aside, whenever I see something like this "accident" I think of what Brother Dave Gardner once said, "I don't believe in accidents. To me, it's all premeditated carelessness." Amen.

60 posted on 12/27/2009 5:24:18 PM PST by OldPossum
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