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Is Mormonism Christian? by Late Richard John Neuhaus
November 24, 2009

Posted on 11/24/2009 1:46:39 PM PST by Steelfish

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To: reaganaut; restornu

This only comes by being humble and a sincere desire to know and understand.
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Oh, dear...

Joey Smith and that awful...

“I’ve got more to boast of than any man, even Jesus...I’m greater than Jesus” (May, 1844)

thingy...

Joey, that aint hummble...

Nor is it a sincere desire to know and understand...

Seems like you are boasting that you are a know-it-all...

Not pleasing of you, Joey...


781 posted on 11/28/2009 1:42:30 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: reaganaut

This only happens after the vail has been removed and our eyes of understanding reveal the Lord’s truth.

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So, exactly HOW does one get called of God to be an LDS APOSTLE by revelation (both Orson Pratt and McConkie) and yet STILL not understand “the Lord’s truth”.

Are you saying you have a better understanding of the LDS gospel than your own “apostles”.

Careful there, Resty, sounds like you are speaking out against the “Lord’s annointed” and that can get your Temple Recommend taken away.

***

There you go again puting words in that were not said...

It is a fact every member can receive revelation for themselves, a conformation from the Holy Ghost.

John 14

26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 15

26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

But there is only one that can speak for the Church.

Joseph Smith said

This is an old question. It was asked of the Prophet Joseph Smith and answered by him. He writes in his journal, “This morning . . . I visited with a brother and sister from Michigan, who thought that ‘a prophet is always a prophet’; but I told them that a prophet is a prophet only when he was acting as such” (Joseph Smith, _History of the Church_, 5:265).

“That statement makes a clear distinction between official and unofficial actions and utterances of officers of the Church. In this recorded statement the Prophet Joseph Smith recognizes his special right and duty, as the President and Prophet of the Church, under the inspiration of the Lord, to speak authoritatively and officially for the enlightenment and guidance of the Church.

But he claims also the right, as other men, to labor and rest, to work and play, to visit and discuss, to present his opinions and hear the opinion of others, to counsel and bless as a member of the Church.

So if Parly or Bruce say things it is their opinion only those thing that are sanctified is becomes scripture.


782 posted on 11/28/2009 1:50:17 PM PST by restornu (Teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves! ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Buck W.; Godzilla; Elsie; ejonesie22; reaganaut; ansel12; Alice in Wonderland; ...
Wait wait... I’ll get some popcorn... :)

Get lots, you're going to need it.

I've noticed a pattern here. The pattern is this.......

Buck is never wrong.

Everyone else is wrong.

In post 144 and many others, ejonesie22 is wrong.

In post 171 and many others, Colofornian is wrong.

In post 246, ansel12 is wrong.

In post 276 and others, Elsie is wrong.

In post 289 and others, metmom is wrong.

In post 299, JR is wrong.

In post 473, reaganaut is wrong.

In post 539, creationists are wrong.

In post 653, Godzilla is wrong.

In post 691, purplemath is wrong.

In post 682 and others, even the Bible is wrong.

The pattern here is that Bucky knows that everyone and everything besides him is wrong. That must mean that he knows everything because only he knows what the truth is and he is never wrong. IOW, he must be like God.

NO! Wait a minute...... Not like God at all after all. According to Buck, the Bible is not inerrant, therefore God lied to us in the Bible. And Buck found the errors in it!!! That must mean that Buck knows more than God. He's BETTER THAN GOD! Because God lied to us in the Bible that God Himself claimed was inspired and Buck found the errors in it.

wow......I've never met a perfect person before.

Can I have your autograph, Buck???

783 posted on 11/28/2009 1:50:24 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Steelfish; colorcountry; Melian; ejonesie22; Tennessee Nana; reaganaut; Elsie; Colofornian; ...

Jesus is the ONLY Truth.

Jesus answered, “I am THE way and THE truth and THElife. No one comes to the Father except through me. (John 14:6)

We may agree on many things, but I gave up the idea of there only being “one true church” (denomination) when I left the LDS. I follow Jesus, and Him alone, not a denomination of any type. The Bible is my guide.


784 posted on 11/28/2009 1:53:55 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: metmom

Very first lie: you will be like God.


785 posted on 11/28/2009 2:01:39 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB; reaganaut

Maybe he’s just practicing....


786 posted on 11/28/2009 2:09:51 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...
NO! Wait a minute...... Not like God at all after all. According to Buck, the Bible is not inerrant, therefore God lied to us in the Bible. And Buck found the errors in it!!! That must mean that Buck knows more than God. He's BETTER THAN GOD! Because God lied to us in the Bible that God Himself claimed was inspired and Buck found the errors in it.
wow......I've never met a perfect person before.

Can I have your autograph, Buck???

Working and lurking and laughing my head off.

Hi, everyone...still loaded down with moving chores and no time to post, but every now and then I pop in and read a few threads. Thanks to you all for your prayers for my safe travel.

787 posted on 11/28/2009 2:11:52 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (The House health care bill that is dropping contains the word “shall” 3,425 times...)
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To: reaganaut; restornu; colorcountry; Elsie; Tennessee Nana; Colofornian; SENTINEL; metmom

really resty they said the all other churches were the church of the devil. You don’t believe your apostles and prophets?


788 posted on 11/28/2009 2:13:27 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: greyfoxx39

Hi GF...

Glad to see you are well ...

((((((HUGS))))))

:)


789 posted on 11/28/2009 2:13:58 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39
Working and lurking and laughing my head off.

Glad to be of service - and Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas to you and yours.

790 posted on 11/28/2009 2:18:09 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I’m well, but I can’t FIND anything! Lost the salt and pepper shakers and don’t know what box is unpacked they could possibly be in....bought some temporary ones at the grocery store!


791 posted on 11/28/2009 2:19:12 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (The House health care bill that is dropping contains the word “shall” 3,425 times...)
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To: metmom

This is my first post on this thread, but no doubt...

(drumroll)

....

I’m wrong too.

;)


792 posted on 11/28/2009 2:20:40 PM PST by MizSterious (Do you not think an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm? John Page, 1744-1808)
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To: greyfoxx39

Salt and pepper shakers on the way by EMail...

have some popcorn too..

I made lots...

:)


793 posted on 11/28/2009 2:21:26 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39
Hi greyfoxx, blessed holidays !

I don't know about Buck but I'd rather be happy then right.
794 posted on 11/28/2009 2:23:37 PM PST by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

666

You da one wit da demmmons!


795 posted on 11/28/2009 2:31:08 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Buck W.

AROUND what??>

ACROSS what?


796 posted on 11/28/2009 2:33:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Salt and pepper shakers on the way by EMail

You are talented!

797 posted on 11/28/2009 2:34:49 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: Godzilla
How can you say that resty?

She can no more tell you what is WRONG with PRATT any more than she can tell you what JS 'learned' was UNTRUE with PRESBYTERIANism.

Why did Resty LEAVE the PRESBYTERIAN church?

Surely not because she found out what was WRONG with it!

798 posted on 11/28/2009 2:37:26 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Godzilla
If he was speaking in the natural man, why didn't the president rebuke him.

That's EASY!

Because the 'President' needed 12 unanimous votes from the QUORUM to push HIS agenda forward!


Why didn't REAL prophets in the bible need 12 YESMEN to back THEM up?

799 posted on 11/28/2009 2:39:22 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39

Oh no! Sheeeeeeee’s Baaaaaack!

Where did you go?


800 posted on 11/28/2009 2:40:48 PM PST by Utah Binger (Mount Carmel Utah, Where Maynard Dixon's ashes remain.)
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