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Is Snow Leopard the new Vista?
CNet UK ^ | 11/09/2009 | By Rory Reid

Posted on 11/10/2009 1:18:17 AM PST by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker
The iTunes/Snow Leopard combination worked fine on all of the computers I upgraded. What problem are you having? The one where it won't quit that a few users are reporting? That goes away with a re-install of iTunes.

another reason I uninstall that crap when Apple tried to bundle it unbeknownst to people by putting it in the fine print defaulting that you will install it UNLESS you uncheck the box. Sneaky rat bastages...

61 posted on 11/10/2009 7:21:59 PM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: sonic109

Off the chart which way???


62 posted on 11/10/2009 7:32:19 PM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: Swordmaker
This doesn't seem to be a truthful review of Snow Leopard at all. First of all, where is this folder "Incompatible Software" supposed to be (in what directory)? I searched for it but couldn't find it.

Secondly, this, The applications affected are numerous and varied. Signature apps such as Parallels Desktop are on the blacklist,

..is completely wrong. Either a lie or a completely, albeit innocently erroneous statement. I've been able to run my Parallels Desktop since upgrading to Snow Leopard, and since getting the latest Parallels Desktop, it's run better than it has in a year (which is way before Snow Leopard came out).

Given this, I suspect every other claim in this review is bogus. Was there no fact checking prior to publishing this? Where did the author come up with this stuff?

63 posted on 11/10/2009 7:48:31 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: dalight; MrsEmmaPeel

Speaking for myself, I had problems with my printer before I got Snow Leopard, and now it works much better.

Just my experience.


64 posted on 11/10/2009 7:50:19 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Blue Highway
another reason I uninstall that crap when Apple tried to bundle it unbeknownst to people by putting it in the fine print defaulting that you will install it UNLESS you uncheck the box. Sneaky rat bastages...

Right... sure, Blue. You "uninstall that crap" on a Mac? No, you are prevaricating again. You don't use a Mac. You have trouble reading the print next to a checkbox that is in plain sight so that you have to uninstall it after you've installed iTunes? Do you even USE iTunes? I sincerely doubt it since you use every opportunity to badmouth Apple, iTunes, Macs, and anything else made by Apple.

That issue you used to hang your diatribe on was a single comment by a single user made in the first four pages of Google results for a search of "Snow Leopard iTunes +problems." No other problems came up on the search. I'd call that a miniscule issue, if it exists at all.

Apparently the issue in question was a combination problem of using iTunes, Snow Leopard, and network connection to an AppleTV... which was fixed with an update to AppleTV.

65 posted on 11/10/2009 11:33:42 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: MrsEmmaPeel
I upgraded to snow Leopard, and now my scanner no longer works.

I'm having the same problem with my Epson printer/copier/scanner. The scanner part works, the memory card reader works. Of course, the copier works. The printer is completely dead. I've tried everything I can find from Epson and Apple and still no dice. Everything worked fine with Tiger and Leopard.

66 posted on 11/10/2009 11:48:57 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Swordmaker

I didn’t say I used a Mac. I do have a iPod shuffle and when installing the software for it to work with my computer only for charging via USB, it TRIES to install the bogus iTunes I do not want or need. Any update via software will default by having “install iTunes” already checked. You will spin this as it being a “convenience” I bet, but I call that as sleight of hand trickery and fine print deception.

This same phenominon occurs with the Windows version of Safari. When you first download it and install it it will have the default setting to install the god forsaken Quicktime which I loathe! as well as the bloatware iTunes which I will repeat I have no use for and I will not use nor need. This isn’t FUD as you Apple drones like to use, it is fact. Please Sword, tell me I am wrong and I will have screenshots ready to make you look foolish.


67 posted on 11/11/2009 9:09:10 AM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: Blue Highway
I didn’t say I used a Mac.

Just as I said: You don't use a Mac. Nice try at hijacking the thread, though.

If you don't like Apple products and the software that is intended to work with them, why did you buy an iPod? Buy something else and be happy.

68 posted on 11/11/2009 9:13:02 AM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

For the record on any browser or search engine you add if they have the default setting to install a toolbar I also call that sleight of hand trickery and down right deception as it is designed for the majority of users that will just keep clicking yes or next to get the darned thing installed and low and behonld once it is installed the freaking toolbar also installed, very deceptively.


69 posted on 11/11/2009 9:13:37 AM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: Blue Highway
For the record on any browser or search engine you add if they have the default setting to install a toolbar I also call that sleight of hand trickery and down right deception as it is designed for the majority of users that will just keep clicking yes or next to get the darned thing installed and low and behonld once it is installed the freaking toolbar also installed, very deceptively.

OK... I had a client that had SIX toolbars installed on IE. He had about 3 inches of screen left to see the websites. In addition, IE had gotten completely bogged down as each of the tool bars argued with the other about which had precedence to provide services...

70 posted on 11/11/2009 9:18:47 AM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

I didn’t buy an iPod a friend was going to throw theirs away that was given to them that went through hell it was in the bottom of a purse and was all gummed up. They thought it didn’t work as the power never came on. Just need the charge through USB which required the Apple software. I do have a SanDisk 4GB Fuse and am VERY happy. Cost me $49 2 years ago and it plays video and had an SD slot. I have modded firmware for it so I can do much more than what I was already happy with previously. Comparing it to the 256 or 512mb iShuffle (I forget as it is not an mp3 player I even take seriously) is a joke, literally.


71 posted on 11/11/2009 9:19:16 AM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: Swordmaker
OK... I had a client that had SIX toolbars installed on IE. He had about 3 inches of screen left to see the websites. In addition, IE had gotten completely bogged down as each of the tool bars argued with the other about which had precedence to provide services...

right, and I would call whatever company that those toolbars belonged to sneaky and deceptive. Yahoo does this crap along with Apple. Microsoft does as well but at least it is part of IE and you can turn it off, but I do hate that Microsoft defaults with the crap on. At least I can be impartial with my displeasure over this deception, you act like Apple does not do this and they are just as bad if not worse than most in this regard. Can you at least admit they use these same tactics?

72 posted on 11/11/2009 9:23:47 AM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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73 posted on 11/11/2009 2:07:17 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Blue Highway
At least I can be impartial with my displeasure over this deception, you act like Apple does not do this and they are just as bad if not worse than most in this regard. Can you at least admit they use these same tactics?

Apple includes Safari and Quicktime with iTunes because they want known applications that interact properly with iTunes. People who elect not to install those known apps will, like you, turn around and complain that iTunes doesn't work quite right with their chosen apps. On installation, the Apple apps will ask if the user wants Quicktime and Safari to be the defaults for their system or not. . . Or the user can elect to not install them at all and put up with less than optimal operation of iTunes.

Is Apple proactive about pushing their free products? Yup. Are those products as intrusive after installation as toolbars on IE or are they going to conflict with other similar tools, interfering with the user's operation of his computer? No.

74 posted on 11/11/2009 2:22:32 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

I call BS on them not being intrusive. After you elect to NOT install the extra components, if you allow (I forget if there is a way to turn off automatic updates) an update it will default check AGAIN the very components you chose not to last time. I call THAT intrusive.


75 posted on 11/11/2009 2:32:43 PM PST by Blue Highway ("Judge me by the people with whom I surround myself" Barack Obama, Oct 15, 2008 Presidential debate)
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To: Swordmaker
Snow Leopard is far greedier. It actually refuses to run on any Apple hardware that doesn't use one of the 'new' Intel CPUs introduced circa 2006. Its memory requirements are relatively low at just 1GB

Relatively low but 1GB is what the basic Mac Mini comes with. I got such a Mini as a gift last summer. Unfortunately, I can't just plug in more memory. Its either a rather delicate operation opening the Mini and moving stuff around or taking the machine to an Apple Store and sitting around for hours or leaving it.

76 posted on 11/11/2009 2:38:59 PM PST by Brugmansian
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