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Weekly Sci-Fi Thread (10/25/09)
10/25/09 | Kevin Davis

Posted on 10/25/2009 1:46:46 PM PDT by KevinDavis

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To: BenLurkin
I caught two episodes of SGU on Friday — what in the world is going on with the two Colonels?

I didn't even watch Friday's episode.

The show is so disjointed that I can't follow it. Past, future, present, body jumping. It lost my interest. And I can't find interest in any of the characters.
21 posted on 10/25/2009 3:17:08 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: hsalaw
” but I have to agree with a lot of what that author said about SGU, particularly the fact that the show seems filed with whiners, losers, bullies, and self-important narcissists (sounds like the Obozo Administration). “

Sounds more like real life than a stream of perfect officers.

“I’m not even sure what branch of the military is being represented, but to have the senior officer (Colonel) always blubbering about his ex?-wife who whines because he’s gone all the time, and his second-in-command (Scott) either crying or having sex with anything in a skirt is totally uninteresting “

I find it more interesting than finding an increasingly superior race of enemies that the perfect officers happen to defeat just in nick of time to save Earth. Again. And again. And again.

“And I just wish Dr. Rush would fly out of an airlock. Maybe he’s a villain or maybe he’s a hero, but I really don’t care anymore. Honestly. “

That you can’t figure out the plot line from now till the end of the show nine years later is part of what makes it interesting.

“And the fact that it’s apparently filmed in the dark doesn’t help either.”

Oh, yes I prefer I-store I-Apple I-macsyfy look much better.

“Half the time I don’t know what the heck’s going on. “

The show is not for everyone. It does require a minimum IQ.

22 posted on 10/25/2009 3:22:34 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Reaganez

I would prefer that they didn’t have the alien communication device. There is enough opportunity for drama with the ensemble cast that they have without wasting time on drama on Earth, too, and it undermines the isolation of the characters. I agree that the new show is closer to the original, which is great, though they still have a Mary Sue character or two (specifically Eli), which is another trend that still alive but I’d like to see less of. My main concern right now is that The Think That’s Going to Kill Us of the week may get old pretty quickly.


23 posted on 10/25/2009 3:26:25 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: KevinDavis

I’ve been watching Star Gate Atlantis on DVD. (Walmart had them for $15.) Never got into the original SG-1 that much and haven’t seen SGU. I just like the Atlantis series for some reason. Can’t explain why.


24 posted on 10/25/2009 3:33:15 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: TomGuy

That’s what I hear, no dollhouse until Dec. That means no Summer Glau until Dec. That stinks! Somebody please post a gratuitous Summer pic.


25 posted on 10/25/2009 3:34:05 PM PDT by ebshumidors (vet, rifleman, 'nuff said.)
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To: hsalaw
I really enjoyed SG-1 and Atlantis, but I have to agree with a lot of what that author said about SGU, particularly the fact that the show seems filed with whiners, losers, bullies, and self-important narcissists (sounds like the Obozo Administration).

Unfortunately, that's the way a lot of young people are believe the rest of the world is. Unlike the generations of writers who produced the original Star Trek and other television from the 1950s through the 1980s, many of whom served in the military during WW2, Korea, or Vietnam, many younger college graduates and writers have no military experience nor do they know anyone who has, so they write about what they imagine the military is like. The other part of the problem is that it's common writing advice that drama comes from conflict and character flaws and many writers have taken that advice too far by creating entire ensemble casts of whiners, losers, and self-important narcissists.

26 posted on 10/25/2009 3:37:24 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Reaganez
The show is not for everyone. It does require a minimum IQ.

LOL! Your rebuttal was interesting until this point. Challenging someone's intelligence always demonstrates you're losing the argument.

And, no matter how sophisticated or nuanced you think SGU is, or how "above" the ordinary person's intellect, I find it whiney, slow, dull, and peopled with a bunch of characters I wouldn't bother to shove out of the way of an oncoming bus. It is nice to have at least one character to relate to in a show, and that's totally missing in this mess.

27 posted on 10/25/2009 3:47:56 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Grunthor

I set up a scheduled recording of “Flash Forward” and watched a few episodes. By the middle of the fourth episode I realized that I couldn’t care less about any of the characters.


28 posted on 10/25/2009 3:51:25 PM PDT by whd23
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To: KevinDavis

big bump!!


29 posted on 10/25/2009 3:54:16 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: BenLurkin

Not a split personality.

Special communications stones. They can communicate with Earth even though they have no clue which direction it is in.


30 posted on 10/25/2009 3:58:53 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Question_Assumptions

The ship going into the star on purpose was robbery of the audience.


31 posted on 10/25/2009 4:05:40 PM PDT by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: ebshumidors

32 posted on 10/25/2009 4:14:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Brave amateurs....they do their part.)
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To: BenLurkin

Thanks! Cameron still rocks!


33 posted on 10/25/2009 5:17:18 PM PDT by ebshumidors (vet, rifleman, 'nuff said.)
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To: ebshumidors; BenLurkin

I will say I did do an SG double-take there when I saw the Senator's daughter...

34 posted on 10/25/2009 5:22:02 PM PDT by mikrofon (Must've been the dark?)
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To: mikrofon

We need to have a Summer Glau thread


35 posted on 10/25/2009 5:31:03 PM PDT by ebshumidors (vet, rifleman, 'nuff said.)
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To: raybbr

woof.

36 posted on 10/25/2009 5:59:08 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: KevinDavis

Not even the cast reciting The Lord’s Prayer could have saved SGU for me. I couldn’t get past the pilot. Worst. Pilot. Ever.


37 posted on 10/25/2009 6:10:59 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Sarah Palin irritates all the right people." -Dennis Miller)
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To: GeronL
The ship going into the star on purpose was robbery of the audience.

I actually found that kinda interesting and considered it a likely explanation for the trajectory and thought the effects were pretty nifty. I'll give them a pass on that and it seems to follow the "trust the ship, it knows what it's doing" theme that's been developing. The bigger cop-out was that they wasted time on the lame "Uh oh, you can't catch the ship" bit that didn't really add anything when they could have used that time for some character development. At the very least, they could have had wonder boy Eli visibly consider that if the shuttle doesn't get back, he has a shot at cheesecake girl.

38 posted on 10/25/2009 6:22:03 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: LiberConservative

It’s gotten a bit better since the pilot and I suspect it will improve as they figure out what they want to do with the characters and prune ideas that don’t add anything.


39 posted on 10/25/2009 6:23:39 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: ebshumidors
Yeah just what she needs. (And, yes, skits like that are why I keep arguing that The Big Bang Theory belongs on the show list in this thread.)
40 posted on 10/25/2009 6:25:40 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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