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Discovery of ‘magnetricity’ marks important advance in physics
timesonline.co.uk ^ | Oct. 15, 2009 | Hannah Devlin

Posted on 10/15/2009 2:51:38 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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1 posted on 10/15/2009 2:51:38 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Spin ice and monopoles. Yeehah!


2 posted on 10/15/2009 3:04:14 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Daffynition

They’re not real monopoles. What the article describes is a technique by which a physicist or engineer can decide where exactly an object’s north and south poles should be. You can move them around over the surface of the object, but ultimately they still always come in pairs and there’s always contiguous spin alignment between them.

It’s a little bit like if I made a necklace made of bar magnets and claimed I had invented a monopole because I can hold up the north end of the necklace while leaving the south end dangling somewhere out of sight.


3 posted on 10/15/2009 3:09:58 PM PDT by Omedalus
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To: AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; Las Vegas Dave; ...
I think this is a sort of reprise, but anyway...

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4 posted on 10/15/2009 3:13:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Omedalus

How magnetricity works in spin ice Dy2Ti2O7: (a) In zero field, magnetic charges occur as bound pairs, but some dissociate to give a fluctuating magnetic moment (green arrow). (b) The field energy competes with the Coulomb potential to lower the activation barrier to dissociation. (c) Applying a transverse field causes dissociation as charges are accelerated by the field. (d) In the applied field, these charges remain dissociated while more bound pairs form to restore equilibrium. Magnetic moment fluctuations due to free charges produce local fields that are detected by implanted muons (+).

5 posted on 10/15/2009 3:14:31 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: Omedalus

This is lame then.


6 posted on 10/15/2009 3:14:33 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: Omedalus

If you picture the spin ice as a closed system, then they’re just as much true monopoles as electrons are true negative electrical poles in our universe and protons true positive poles.


7 posted on 10/15/2009 3:17:19 PM PDT by OldGuard1
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To: Free ThinkerNY; snarks_when_bored; Myrddin; The_Reader_David; Robert A. Cook, PE; decimon; ...
Like, *PING*, folks.

The idea that the north and south poles of a magnet can exist independently was first proposed by Paul Dirac, a physicist, in 1931.

Does Van Vleck have to return *his* Nobel? I once read that he was *adamant* that there could be no magnetic monopoles...

(Snarks, do you know aught of this story?)

Cheers!

8 posted on 10/15/2009 3:27:03 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: OldGuard1

The same can be said if you picture my hypothetical necklace of bar magnets as a closed system. All I gotta do is flip a segment of the necklace, and, presto! Monopole!

b000ring.


9 posted on 10/15/2009 3:32:50 PM PDT by Omedalus
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To: Daffynition
...monopoles.

What you're left with when her attraction to you does not match your attraction to her.

10 posted on 10/15/2009 3:41:09 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Daffynition
"Making a monopole":


11 posted on 10/15/2009 3:47:08 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/iding in the2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: freedumb2003

Taggus Linus H1N1... weird.


12 posted on 10/15/2009 3:49:15 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis.)
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To: decimon
I see what you did there. LOL


13 posted on 10/15/2009 4:02:20 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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14 posted on 10/15/2009 4:04:56 PM PDT by Daffynition (What's all this about hellfire and Dalmatians?)
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To: grey_whiskers

;’)


15 posted on 10/15/2009 4:38:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Omedalus
Newly Discovered Magnetic Monopole Particles Flow Like Electric Currents

Inflation lives!

16 posted on 10/15/2009 4:42:57 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Paladin2
It's not lame because it manifests itself as a quantum pseudo-particle, of which there are many examples in solid state physics. The most familiar is the phonon, which is a quantized lattice vibration. The Polaron is another example. I'm not sure how this would relate, but here is a paper on Magnetic Polaron Dynamics.
17 posted on 10/15/2009 5:14:17 PM PDT by dr_lew
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A crystal lattice’s quirky behavior is not an elementary monopole. This and similar phenomena are done with lattice formations as a sort of trick. At low enough temperatures geometric frustration prevents the full superdiamagnetism effect from taking hold. It’s novel and potentially very useful but not related to Dirac’s elementary particle proposition.


18 posted on 10/15/2009 5:32:55 PM PDT by allmost
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It’s novel and potentially very useful but not related to Dirac’s elementary particle proposition.

It's related insofar as it models or mimics the behavior of magnetic monopoles. Certainly it is no step towards the discovery of elementary magnetic monopoles, or anything of that sort.

19 posted on 10/15/2009 6:04:44 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

The existence of a Dirac monopole would revolutionize much of our physical theoretical understanding. This is not it.


20 posted on 10/15/2009 6:08:25 PM PDT by allmost
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