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1 posted on 09/27/2009 5:04:44 AM PDT by J. Neil Schulman
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Nope, Abortion IS murder. No amount of faulty logic can change that.


2 posted on 09/27/2009 5:09:41 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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You lost me at “Abortion is Murder”


3 posted on 09/27/2009 5:11:36 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (YHWH Yahushua)
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Sorry, but anyone who feels compelled to post a vanity thread set in oversized bold type under red headlines isn't really confidant of the wisdom of his or her own argument.
4 posted on 09/27/2009 5:15:08 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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Yeah, Neil, 7 out of 10 isn’t bad.


5 posted on 09/27/2009 5:15:43 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.")
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The statement that a new human life begins with conception is biologically true but not true according to anyone who actually believes in the existence of an immortal soul. If one believes in an immortal soul then a new human life begins the first moment that an immortal soul exists within a human body.

Good article, but the author gets twisted inside out on his own logic here. If you believe in an immortal soul, the soul existed BEFORE the cells combined to start a new life. If you destroy the cells, you destroy the avenue by which the soul would have come into the world. Duh.

6 posted on 09/27/2009 5:17:54 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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I like Neil a lot, even if I don't agree with him all the time. He is someone who thinks outside the box and who writes extremely well. His novel, Escape from Heaven, is a wonderful, humorous read that makes you think.
7 posted on 09/27/2009 5:18:20 AM PDT by marktwain
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Ixnay on 3 and 9. Othewise I agree,


8 posted on 09/27/2009 5:19:16 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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11. Obama is a natural born American, certified
by an open birth certificate, the DNC,
the US Congress and, of course, SCOTUS. [do I need a /s?]


9 posted on 09/27/2009 5:20:09 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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Per #3. A body becomes “ensouled” when it draws its first breath?

This opens the way to “full birth abortion.” Just put a plastic bag over the baby’s head as he’s being born.

No breath, no soul, no murder.

Why our concepts of when human personhood begins should depend on the pre-scientific musings of ancient Hebrew priests is beyond me.

BTW, the Catholic Church long considered human life to begin at “quickening,” when the mother becomes able to feel the baby moving. Their change of this position was based on better scientific understanding of the pregnancy process.


11 posted on 09/27/2009 5:23:35 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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So sorry. You fail. Only got a 60%

Study some more and take the test again next semester.

12 posted on 09/27/2009 5:24:54 AM PDT by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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If one believes in an immortal soul then a new human life begins the first moment that an immortal soul exists within a human body.

Your ancestors came here for freedom of worship. Honor them by extending the same freedom to everyone else.

Sounds like a bit of a contradiction. The practical definition of human life, the one that transcends religious questions and applies to all human communities regardless of their religious makeup, doesn't rely on questions of the soul. Unless, that is, you want to impose your religious beliefs on them.

14 posted on 09/27/2009 5:26:37 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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Per #6.

You seem to be confusing correlation with causation.

Do you really plan to get up an inner-city posse to combat crime? A posse made up of the criminals themselves? Good luck with that.

I agress 100% that cops often get out of hand. In particular, the ongoing militarization of the police is troubling. But very few people will agree that we would be better off without police. If nothing else, a tremendous number of crimes would go unsolved without forensics, which requires a high degree of professionalism.


15 posted on 09/27/2009 5:30:56 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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Shilling for your book here on FR?
Is that even allowed?
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You are wrong on point #3.
I believe that abortion IS murder.
And my belief is not based on a religious reason.
It is a scientific and moral belief.


16 posted on 09/27/2009 5:31:11 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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As ReleaseTheHounds said, 7 out of 10.

Maybe you'll do better with you next large font posting.
17 posted on 09/27/2009 5:31:57 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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BTW, kudos for 1, 2 and especially 8.


18 posted on 09/27/2009 5:32:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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3. Abortion is murder....
The statement that a new human life begins with conception is biologically true but not true according to anyone who actually believes in the existence of an immortal soul.

Reason #1 why most Jews are RATs! And also a lie.

I seriously doubt that most of the world's major religions believing in an afterlife, would agree with that baby-killer position...starting with the Pope.

19 posted on 09/27/2009 5:33:59 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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Abortion isn’t murder? OK, imagine taking an hour-old baby swinging him by his heels and crushing his head against a tree? Is that murder? What would be the difference between that and killing it in the womb i.e. an abortion 61-minutes earlier?


21 posted on 09/27/2009 5:39:09 AM PDT by Tribune7 (I am Joe Wilson!)
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I didn’t give the article an in depth reading. Why? Because after surfing through it, I didn’t see my initial thought upon reading the article’s title; Ronald Reagan, and the left’s outrageous campaign against him. You know, Ronald Reagan will take your grandparents’ Social Security away from them and force them to eat dog food; Ronald Reagan will start WWIII; etc.


22 posted on 09/27/2009 5:39:16 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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This is the exact reason conservatives are in trouble because eventhough the majority of people who hold these view have a conservative basis, they fail to connect what are the most important character traits... unselfish individuality, and honesty.

Libertarians R us!

23 posted on 09/27/2009 5:39:30 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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Your list stinks.

One of the Founders' primary stated purposes for the existence of our Constitution is "to secure the Blessings of Liberty to our POSTERITY."

Your ideology guts the Constitution, destroys the foundations of our form of government and the premises of liberty, while politically empowering the continuing daily slaughter of thousands of innocent and helpless children.

You're a holocaust enabler.

24 posted on 09/27/2009 5:40:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (If you're not a Personhood Pro-Lifer, you're a holocaust enabler, either actively or passively.)
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