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Pictured: Hitler playing chess with Lenin
telegraph.co.uk ^ | Sept. 3, 2009

Posted on 09/03/2009 2:32:09 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

A picture of a young Adolf Hitler apparently playing chess against Vladimir Lenin 100 years ago has come to light. The image is said to have been created in Vienna by Hitler's art teacher, Emma Lowenstramm, and is signed on the reverse by the two dictators.

Hitler was a jobbing artist in the city in 1909 and Lenin was in exile and the house where they allegedly played the game belonged to a prominent Jewish family. In the run-up to the Second World War the Jewish family fled and gave many of their possessions, including the etching and chess set, to their housekeeper.

Now their housekeeper's great-great grandson is selling the image and the chess set at auction. Both items have a pre-sale estimate of £40,000.

The unnamed vendor is confident the items are genuine after his father spent a lifetime attempting to prove their authenticity.

He compiled a 300-page forensic document that included tests on the paper, the signatures and research on those involved.

Experts, however, have questioned its authenticity especially the identification of Lenin who they say might have been confused with one of his associates.

When the etching was made, Hitler was 20 and Lenin was twice his age and the house was where politicos went to discuss things.

The etching is thought to be one of five and shows Hitler - playing with the white pieces - sitting by a window, with Lenin opposite him in half shadow.

It is titled "A Chess Game: Lenin with Hitler - Vienna 1909".

It raises tantalising questions about what the two men who helped shape the world in the 20th century might have spoken of.


(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: chess; dictators; godsgravesglyphs; hitler; lenin; socialists
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To: denydenydeny

You don’t think they could have met at the Future Socialist Dictators Club or the Socialist-Facist Mixer where the deviationists are roasted.


21 posted on 09/03/2009 2:54:35 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: GeronL

I think this photo is about as legit as the Hitler Diaries.


22 posted on 09/03/2009 2:55:02 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Free ThinkerNY
£40,000.

That's it! I'm sort of shocked

I imagine all the Statist and commies would be lining up to bid on their hero Lenin

23 posted on 09/03/2009 2:58:08 PM PDT by Popman (Obama "may" be a US citizen, but he's not an American)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s a little too neat the subjects’ signatures are on the back. The chess set really puts it over the top. JMHO.


24 posted on 09/03/2009 2:59:19 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: dfwgator

=o)

OK. But could they have passed each other in the street? lol


25 posted on 09/03/2009 2:59:49 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

26 posted on 09/03/2009 3:01:50 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: dfwgator

“I think this photo is about as legit as the Hitler Diaries.”

Yep. My impression is, no way, the odds are very remote of those specific two persons meeting in a chess game at that specific place and time.


27 posted on 09/03/2009 3:08:04 PM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Hitler playing chess with Lenin

And who says you can't know a person by the company they keep?

28 posted on 09/03/2009 3:14:08 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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...the house where they allegedly played the game belonged to a prominent Jewish family.
Wow. The only way to top that profound irony is if it had been the Frank family.

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29 posted on 09/03/2009 3:16:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think they are mistaken—the guy on the right looks more like Edgar Allan Poe. Proving Poe was in Vienna when Hitler was there might be a little tricky though.


30 posted on 09/03/2009 3:27:04 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"played the game belonged to a prominent Jewish family. In the run-up to the Second World War the Jewish family fled and gave many of their possessions, including the etching and chess set, to their housekeeper".

The housekeeper always seems to make out like a bandit! The Jewish family was friends with these two guys?

31 posted on 09/03/2009 3:29:58 PM PDT by classified
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To: Texan Tory

Really.

Especially two totally unknowns in 1909. It’s a fantasy
of the artist.


32 posted on 09/03/2009 3:35:06 PM PDT by Zman516 (socialists & muslims -- satan's useful idiots.)
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To: dfwgator
etching ...
33 posted on 09/03/2009 3:36:20 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: Zman516

Akin to the poker-playing dogs.


34 posted on 09/03/2009 3:37:07 PM PDT by Zman516 (socialists & muslims -- satan's useful idiots.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Soon to be hanging in the Oval Office.


35 posted on 09/03/2009 3:53:05 PM PDT by bgill (The evidence simply does not support the official position of the Obama administration)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
He was a lot more fun when he WAs younger


36 posted on 09/03/2009 3:56:02 PM PDT by llevrok (As a matter of fact, yes I DO care if Jimmy cracks corn !)
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To: Zman516

In 1909 Hitler was totally unknown, just a weird kid.

Lenin was quite an important figure in Russia and in the international socialist movement.

I can’t see why he’d be playing chess with some kid.


37 posted on 09/03/2009 4:12:07 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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