[ZULU]

But the 12-16000 year time frame may not translate into the FIRST farmers in Europe, since the first “modern” humans arrived there 45,000 years ago.

[blam]

"But the 12-16000 year time frame may not translate into the FIRST farmers in Europe, since the first “modern” humans arrived there 45,000 years ago."

I don't understand what you're saying.

BTW, my dad's mother, Mrs Smith, was related to Cheddar Man, both are mtDNA haplotype U5a.

I'm yDNA halpotype R1b DYS390-23, which indicates I came out of the Iberian Ice Age refuge and made my way to Denmark then later to Ireland, possibly as a Viking.

[eleni121]

Hey Zulu---how about going back 32,000 years---and these works of genius were not done by "farmers"

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