[blam]

"But the 12-16000 year time frame may not translate into the FIRST farmers in Europe, since the first “modern” humans arrived there 45,000 years ago."

I don't understand what you're saying.

BTW, my dad's mother, Mrs Smith, was related to Cheddar Man, both are mtDNA haplotype U5a.

I'm yDNA halpotype R1b DYS390-23, which indicates I came out of the Iberian Ice Age refuge and made my way to Denmark then later to Ireland, possibly as a Viking.

[ZULU]

What I am saying is that there were “Modern” humans in Europe thousands of years before the population sampled here. Some of them may have been farmers also, but did not contribute to the gene pool of “modern Europeans” who arrived after the last great ice sheet melt off.

Does that make sense?